Land Registry Titles
The land of Great House Farm was first… … read more
The land of Great House Farm was first registered at HM Land Registry by BP Properties Ltd in 1982–83. All documents cited here are in the Evidence Library.
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Dependency control: this page records the register/title chronology; it does not by itself determine whether every parcel within a later registered title was conveyed by the root instruments. For the central Parcel A/B question, follow the Parcel A/B title claim and Site Hierarchy Tree View. The reported 1983 notice received after Mary (Nancy) Williams’s death remains SOURCE PENDING until the original is obtained: see GHF-E180 (pending letter) and the notice allegation page.
| Title | What it is | Documents |
|---|---|---|
| WA231076 | Main site. First registration applied for 30 November 1982. Registered to Persimmon Homes (Wales) Ltd. Letter of 27 September 2026 asked what instrument carries the farmhouse and garden. No reply. | Register · Plan |
| WA240304 | Farmhouse-and-garden title (registered on the 23 May 1975 conveyance, which the 1987 judgment ties to the farmhouse and garden). First registration applied for 23 February 1983; amalgamated into WA231076 and closed. | Old title plan on file (item 9), not yet obtained |
| WA513690 | Oakview, Leckwith Road. Part transferred by BP to private buyers, 10 October 1989. | Register · Plan |
| WA735527 | Woodland. Registered to Forest of Cardiff (charity). Its September 2026 offer of a route to ownership was not accepted; title not passed (Woodland). | Register · Plan |
Method and evidence key: Main Page · title… … read more
Method and evidence key: Main Page · title test · Scrutiny & Accountability
History, in date order
1905 – 1961: Deeds before registration
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Location: HM Land Registry historic/title fileDuplicate catalogue entries merged here: GHF-E026-07, GHF-E026-26
Evidence: Register of title WA735527 (also catalogued as GHF-E026-02)
Evidence description: the schedule lists every document on the first-registration files: 30 for WA231076 and 13 for WA240304, available at £11 each on form OC2. The WA231076 file holds a conveyance of 23 February 1905, an agreement of 15 May 1924 and a deed of 29 March 1961. The 1905 Bute conveyance granted rights to Cardiff Corporation. The WA735527 register records that no copies of the 1905 plans were supplied on first registration. Copies of the 1924 agreement and 1961 deed can be ordered from HMLR.
Parcel unclearUnclear until the original is obtained and read. The Wiki’s current register-based interpretation is that the 1905 conveyance concerned rights over land Bute kept and may therefore relate to Parcel B; the deed, its plan and its legal scope have not been inspected, so this remains provisional rather than a parcel finding. The 15 May 1924 record is described on the woodland register as a Bute–Corbett drain agreement; whether it bears on Parcel A or on Mary’s 1928 is unresolved until the agreement and its plan are read. If its plan covers the blue (1975, farmhouse-strand) land, Bute was dealing with Parcel A land in 1924; if only the pink land, it is neutral. 🕒
Location: HM Land Registry historic/title file
Location: HM Land Registry historic/title file; described in WA735527 charges entry 2
Location: HM Land Registry historic/title file
1969 – 1975: The conveyances relied on
Evidence: HMLR registration history, 23 March 2026 (also catalogued as GHF-E026-06) · Schedule of documents, 30 July 2026 (also GHF-E026-07) · Register of title WA735527 (also GHF-E026-08)
Location: HM Land Registry historic/title file
Location: HM Land Registry historic/title file
Evidence description: both BP conveyances recite a conveyance of 31 December 1969 from Western Ground Rents to BP Pension Trust as their root of title. That 1969 conveyance is not in the schedule of documents on either file. The 23 May 1975 conveyance (BP Pension Trust to BP Properties) and its plan are on the WA240304 file; the 1987 judgment records that this was “the actual conveyance of the farmhouse and garden”. The WA240304 schedule also lists a “plan to conveyance dated 23 February 1975” (item 13), a date that differs from every other record and needs checking. The same 1975 conveyance is the source of the land tinted blue on the WA735527 register (Woodland).
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The registration narrative describes these conveyances as relating to the farm as one holding; that is not proof that the Parcel A freehold was conveyed. WGR acquired Bute’s fields (Parcel B) in 1938 (1938 reversion), but no document on file shows how it or BP acquired the farmhouse parcel (Parcel A), and the 1969 root itself is missing. 🕒
1982 – 1987: First registration and amalgamation
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Location: HM Land Registry historic/title fileDuplicate catalogue entries merged here: GHF-E026-06, GHF-E026-20, GHF-E026-22
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Location: HM Land Registry historic/title fileDuplicate catalogue entries merged here: GHF-E026-17
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Location: HM Land Registry historic/title file
Location: HM Land Registry historic/title file
Location: HM Land Registry first-registration file WA240304
Evidence description: on 30 November 1982 Linklaters & Paines applied on form 1E to register BP Properties as owner of WA231076, relying on a conveyance of 19 November 1982 from BP Pension Trust and BP Trustees. On 23 February 1983 they applied on form 1C for WA240304, relying on the 1975 conveyance [PENDING: EV-0066; PENDING: EV-0063]. HMLR says a 1971 abstract of title was lodged, and that the solicitors certified they knew of no question or doubt affecting the title. Mary (Nancy) Williams died on 26 March 1983; the WA240304 file holds Linklaters/HMLR correspondence dated 8 and 12 April 1983. A request to amalgamate the two titles was made on 2 February 1987 [PENDING: EV-0078].
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The 1982/83 first registration merged both parcels into one estate and the 1987 amalgamation completed it. Parcel B had a paper root through Bute’s retained land and WGR; for Parcel A the first-registration material does not identify any historic conveyance supplying the root, and the later possession, tenancy-offer and licence records are context, not substitutes for it. The underlying deeds, plans, application papers and requisitions will show how the registered extent was established. WA240304 was registered on the conveyance the 1987 judgment ties to the farmhouse and garden; its exact extent will be confirmed by its old title plan.
Unresolved What did HMLR ask in April 1983… … read more
UnresolvedWhat did HMLR ask in April 1983 about occupation or adverse claims, and what did Linklaters answer? Mary had pleaded ownership and the Limitation Act in the 1974 county court action, which was never decided. Whether that live plea was disclosed when the “no question or doubt” certificate was given is the key question for the family’s concealment case (Case Analysis §3.1; Legal Review, F3). 🕒
Procedural failures the family has raised (1982–1987):
| Date | Record / issue | Scrutiny record |
|---|---|---|
| 1982–83 | First registration of the Great House Farm land while the family was in occupation, with no evidence that the occupier was given notice or an effective opportunity to object. 🕒 | Open scrutiny page → |
| 26 March 1983 | Mary (Nancy) Williams died (details); [SOURCE PENDING] registration notice reached the family only after her death, during mourning [PENDING: EV-0060]. | Open scrutiny page → |
| 8 and 12 April 1983 | Linklaters/HMLR correspondence on the WA240304 (farmhouse) file, including form D23 “inside exam”, after Mary’s death [PENDING: EV-0069; PENDING: EV-0070]. | Open analysis → |
| 1986 | Two relevant titles still live during the litigation. | Open scrutiny page → |
| 2 February 1987 | Amalgamation application made while the appeal was still live. | Open scrutiny page → |
1989 – 2005: Later dealings
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Location: HM Land Registry historic/title file
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Location: HM Land Registry historic/title file
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Location: HM Land Registry historic/title fileDuplicate catalogue entries merged here: GHF-E026-02, GHF-E026-08, GHF-E028-08, GHF-E028-12
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Location: HM Land Registry historic/title file
Evidence: Register of title WA231076 (also catalogued as GHF-E026-17) · HMLR registration history, 23 March 2026 (also GHF-E026-20)
Evidence description:
- 10 Oct 1989 — BP transfers part (WA513690, Oakview) to private buyers, with fencing covenants.
- 3 Dec 1993 — BP transfers to Ideal Homes (Redevelopment).
- 20 Jan 1994 — Register changes; title corrected.
- 10 Nov 1994 — Ideal Homes transfers the woodland (WA735527) to Forest of Cardiff [PENDING: EV-0136]. The price, if any, is to be confirmed: whether the charity bought for value or received the land as a gift affects the protections available to it (Case Analysis §3.3).
- 28 Jun 1995 — Rights granted to South Wales Electricity plc.
- 18–19 Mar 1996 — Correspondence from Persimmon Homes; last dealing on the file.
- 22 Dec 2005 — Part of the woodland title divided off (Woodland).
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Parcel AThe Ideal Homes transfer and later dealings treat the merged estate as one. The woodland title WA735527 contains land from two strands: land tinted blue came through the 1975 conveyance (the farmhouse strand, Parcel A), and land tinted pink came through the 1982 conveyance and is subject to Bute’s 1905 and WGR’s 1961 deeds (the Bute–WGR strand). Overlaying the plan colours on the 1939 tenancy plan will show which woodland is Parcel A (Woodland). Oakview (WA513690) is unclear; best guess the fields, Parcel B.
2026: The family’s complaint to HM Land Registry
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Location: HM Land Registry historic/title file
Evidence description: HMLR says it is retrieving the historic paper files.
Parcel AThe complaint concerns the inclusion of the farmhouse parcel (Parcel A) in the merged title.
Evidence: HMLR registration history, 23 March 2026 (also catalogued as GHF-E026-22)
Evidence description: HMLR sets out the registration history and says there is no evidence of a mistake in the register. 🕒
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HMLR describes the registration as one farm; it does not separate the parcels or explain the root of the Parcel A part.
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Location: HM Land Registry historic/title fileAlso catalogued with the stage two decision as GHF-E025-10
Evidence description: an Assistant Land Registrar did not uphold the complaint of fraud and maladministration or the request for indemnity. HMLR says it cannot look behind the 1987 judgment.
Parcel A The decision rests on the judgment… … read more
Parcel AThe decision rests on the judgment about the farmhouse rather than on any deed to it. The 1987 judgment decided limitation and licence; it did not try title (Case Analysis §1).
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Location: HM Land Registry historic/title file
Evidence description: the complaint was escalated to stage two.
Parcel AUnchanged.
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Location: HM Land Registry historic/title file
Evidence description: a Land Registrar (Mr Gill) decided that “the title has been registered correctly and there are no grounds for rectification or indemnity”; the complaint stages were closed. The decision letter gives six months to complain to the Independent Complaints Reviewer, so by about 25 November 2026. 🕒
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The decision treats the registered title as covering both parcels without showing any valid historic root for the inclusion of Parcel A.
Evidence: Schedule of documents, 30 July… … read more
Evidence: Schedule of documents, 30 July 2026 (also catalogued as GHF-E026-26)
After the complaint: file inspection and preservation chronology
| Date | Event | Record / evidence |
|---|---|---|
| 2–3 Jun 2026 | Family made a formal physical-inspection request and an express request that the historic material not be destroyed while the matter remained outstanding. Several HMLR addresses subsequently returned delivery failures. | Family correspondence; request retained in Records Access Chronology. |
| 13 Jul 2026 | Intermediate HMLR letter from Coventry. | Family-held HMLR correspondence. |
| 30 Jul 2026 | Mr Haste supplied the schedule of documents said to survive on the first-registration files (43 documents). The 31 December 1969 root conveyance and the free-standing 1971 abstract are not listed. | Schedule. |
| 30 Jul 2026 | Family sent detailed questions concerning the contents of the schedule, the 1971 abstract, the “no doubt” certificate and family/title references. | Family correspondence. |
| 12 Aug 2026 | Family sent a further seven-point letter and targeted OC2 requests. No numbered answer on the file contents or physical inspection had yet been supplied. | Family correspondence. |
| 16–18 Sep 2026 | Family sent a comprehensive 14-point follow-up. Point 5 repeated the physical-inspection request of 3 June; point 7 repeated the preservation request. | Family correspondence. |
| 17 Sep 2026 | Automated HMLR messages stated that the contact details used were unsupported / incorrect. | Automated HMLR replies. |
| 21 Sep 2026 | Support agent Sandra stated that the title was “closed in 2005”. This conflicts with the HMLR registration chronology showing the 1982–83 first registrations and the 1987 amalgamation. | HMLR support correspondence; compare first registration. |
| 21 Sep 2026 | Family notified HMLR of the conflicting closure dates and repeated the preservation request. | Family correspondence. |
| 22 Sep 2026 | Family requested electronic copies of the documents listed on 30 July. | Family correspondence. |
| 25 Sep 2026 | Physical-inspection request of 3 June remains unanswered in substance. A formal non-destruction confirmation beyond the statement that material “will remain on file” remains outstanding. The 1969 root deed and free-standing 1971 abstract remain absent from the schedule. | Current correspondence record. |
Documentary significance. This chronology… … read more
Documentary significance. This chronology records HMLR’s statements, the documents it has listed as surviving, the family’s unanswered inspection and preservation requests, and the conflicting “closed in 2005” statement. HMLR normally returned original deeds and abstracts to the applicant after first registration, so BP, Linklaters or their successors are the likely holders of the missing 1969 root deed and 1971 abstract. The family’s return and disclosure requests are directed to them (Legal Review, section 1.4). See also The restoration campaign. 🕒
Woodland: see Woodland.
See also: Evidence Library · Redevelopment ·… … read more
See also: Evidence Library · Redevelopment · Master timeline · Case Analysis — Connections, Patterns and Questions · Legal Review — Fraud, Land and Human Rights
Name/location reference: Great House Farm … … read more
Name/location reference: Great House Farm — Name & Location Variations (historical spellings and Llandough-juxta-Penarth location forms).
October 2026 control correction — woodland is the live title target
The active title question is no longer… … read more
The active title question is no longer whether the 1939 tenancy included Parcel A. That document is already obtained and its plan is established as Parcel B only.
For the woodland, the relevant test is now… … read more
For the woodland, the relevant test is now: which exact Parcel-A woodland was physically taken in 1955, and where did that exact polygon enter the modern title chain? The priority documents are the 1955 execution evidence, 1975/1982 plans, 1994 Forest of Cardiff transfer and plan, 2005 excision, and present WA735527/CYM titles.
The legal analysis must also keep separate… … read more
The legal analysis must also keep separate the historical 1955 dispossession, any adverse-possession limitation consequence, any later registration mistake, and any current indemnity/protection remedy.
Site-wide working-theory cross-reference (18 October 2026): See the Cedwyn Estate Working Theory. This page may contribute evidence to a specific part of that hypothesis only to the extent its source actually establishes a relevant name, event, parcel, title, claim or decision. Similar names, proximity, chronology or institutional involvement are research leads, not proof of common ownership or coordination.
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