The National Archives — correspondence with the family (email)
| Title | The National Archives: correspondence with the family (email) |
|---|---|
| Evidence label | CORRESPONDENCE (email thread) |
| Institution | The National Archives |
| Date range | 31 Jan 2026 – 15 Oct 2026 |
| Messages published | 40: 22 from Sion Buckler (trimmed to the farm case), 18 from the institution side (0 automatic replies listed by header only); 1 of Sion’s messages omitted entirely (not about the farm case) |
| Not published | 2 unsent drafts |
| Status | HELD: Sion Buckler’s Gmail, read-only export, 18 Oct 2026 |
| Provenance | Message text verbatim. Email addresses, phone numbers, postal addresses and signature blocks removed; earlier quoted replies trimmed. Message numbers follow the full export, so gaps are messages not published. Selection: the institution’s email domains plus case terms; check for misses. Sion’s own messages trimmed to the farm case on 18 Oct 2026: personal passages omitted at the family’s request and marked “[personal passage omitted — not about the farm case]”; institutions’ words unchanged. |
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1. Description
- 41 messages published, 31 Jan 2026 to 15 Oct 2026: 23 from Sion Buckler, 18 from The National Archives (0 automatic).
- Last non-automatic message from The National Archives: M38, 14 Oct 2026. Messages from Sion after it: 3.
- Reply times below are mechanical: the gap from each email Sion sent to the next non-automatic message from the institution. A reply may answer a different email. Read with section 2.
2. Evidence: the emails
M01 · 31 Jan 2026 05:58 UTC · Sion Buckler · Concern regarding historical record following disputed land dispossession
Sirs/Ma’am,
I’m writing to raise a concern regarding the integrity of the historical
record following disputed dispossession of land i.e. BP vs Buckler 1987
After forced removal and demolition of our home, archaeological excavation
and removal of items took place on land whose ownership had never been
conclusively adjudicated at the time of registration. BP asserted it, but
it was never determined in a ruling beforehand as the July 1974 case
between BP and my grandmother was adjourned and the October 31st 1974
appeal and audience with a judge she made just 24 hours before, was
squashed by letters sent by BP that same morning.
I am not making allegations here, simply stating facts about this landmark
legal case. And asking whether this type of circumstance is relevant to
archival or historical record considerations.
Yours faithfully,
Sion Buckler
M02 · 06 Feb 2026 10:28 UTC · RESO Records Enquiries · Response to enquiry at The National Archives. Case number: CAS-313954-Y6C0H3 CRM:052900508
Dear Sion Buckler,
Thank you for contacting The National Archives of the United Kingdom.
It is unlikely The National Archives holds the records of this type of case, and the Central Land Registry<https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/land-registry>, who hold records of land registration, is a separate body. Some records of land ownership can be found among records at local or county archives.
I recommend you consult our guide to searching for records of Land ownership records and deeds: an overview – The National Archives<https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/land-ownership-records-and-deeds-an-overview/>. Regarding the court cases you mention, I also recommend you consult: Civil court cases: Chancery Division since 1875 – The National Archives<https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/civil-court-cases-chancery-division-since-1875/>, and you may also find Civil courts: appeal cases after 1875 – The National Archives<https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/civil-courts-appeal-cases-after-1875/> of use to your research. These guides will help you to use our catalogue<https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/>, or other online sources, effectively and focus your search.
Records are represented in our online catalogue by a title, a reference and a brief description. When you search our catalogue using keywords you are searching across these titles and descriptions, rather than the contents of the records themselves. By clicking on any search result, you can see whether the record is available online or if you need to visit us to view the original. You can also request copies of records from their catalogue description page.
If the record is held by another archive, you will need to contact them directly to find out how you can access it.
You can also watch this video<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz4f–o3zUU> for more advice on using our online catalogue.
You are welcome to visit us<https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/about/visit-us/> to continue your research here in person, where access to our records is free of charge. Before you visit, please check our website for information regarding our opening hours<https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/about/visit-us/opening-times/> and ID requirements<https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/about/visit-us/researching-here/do-i-need-a-readers-ticket/>. If you are unable to visit, or would like someone to pursue this research on your behalf, please see the available paid search options<https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/paying-for-research/> on our website.
Yours sincerely,
Robert Fleming
Remote Enquiries Duty Officer
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M03 · 06 Feb 2026 10:49 UTC · Sion Buckler · Re: Response to enquiry at The National Archives. Case number: CAS-313954-Y6C0H3 CRM:052900508
Robert Fleming,
Thank you for your prompt response and for providing the helpful research
guides on land ownership records,
To clarify my original enquiry, I am specifically concerned with the
historical record surrounding the case of BP Properties Ltd v Buckler
[1987] EWCA Civ 2, which involved a disputed land dispossession at Great
House Farm in Llandough, South Glamorgan. This stemmed from earlier
proceedings in 1974, including an adjourned case in July and an appeal
attempt on October 31st that was impacted by correspondence from BP the
same day. Following the 1987 ruling, there was forced removal, demolition
of our family home, and archaeological activity on the site, despite
ongoing questions about the adjudication of ownership prior to land
registration.
My question is not solely about locating ownership or court documents
(though any guidance on whether The National Archives holds physical files
from these proceedings would be welcome), but rather whether circumstances
like these—where ownership was disputed and not fully resolved before
registration or excavation—raise any considerations for the integrity or
completeness of the archival record. For instance, do such disputes prompt
reviews or annotations in historical land records, or are there protocols
for archiving related materials from corporate entities like BP or local
authorities involved?
I understand your resources are focused on national-level holdings, but any
further direction would greatly assist my research.
Sincerely,
Sion Buckler
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M04 · 06 Feb 2026 13:07 UTC · RESO Records Enquiries · Response to National Archives case number CAS-313954-Y6C0H3 CRM:022601115
Dear Sion Buckler,
Thank you for clarifying the nature of your enquiry.
In answer to your main enquiry, in general we would not add notes to, or review, records in light of unresolved disputes or other matters. The records are left to speak for themselves. In fact, those records are often incomplete and patchwork in character, meaning that they may not enable the enquirer to know what the final determination or outcome of any dispute was.
Since you refer to a reported Court of Appeal (Civil Division) case, I have conducted a quick search of our, admittedly limited holdings. The main record series in which you might expect to find archival material here are J 157<https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C9764>, J 83<https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C9691> and J 84<https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C9692>. Unfortunately, none contain records relevant to the case.
Yours sincerely,
Charlotte Smith
Principal Records Specialist, Modern Legal Records
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M05 · 06 Feb 2026 18:11 UTC · Sion Buckler · Re: Response to National Archives case number CAS-313954-Y6C0H3 CRM:022601115
Ms Smith,
Thanks for your reply and for explaining The National Archives’ position
regarding annotation and review of records.
I fully accept that archives do not resolve disputes and that records are
often incomplete or patchwork in character. My purpose in writing is not to
seek amendment, adjudication, or retrospective commentary, but to raise a
specific concern about how absence, silence, and fragmentation within the
archival record should be understood where material public consequences
clearly followed.
By way of clarification, my concern relates to the historical record
surrounding Great House Farm, Llandough, and the proceedings culminating in *BP
Properties Ltd v Buckler* [1987] EWCA Civ 2. In particular:
– Ownership and occupation of the farmhouse and garden were actively
contested in 1974, with a defence asserting adverse possession filed on
behalf of Mary Williams, and the matter adjourned without a final
determination of title.
– Enforcement of earlier possession orders was deferred, a warrant was
withdrawn on 31 October 1974, and the occupier remained in possession until
her death in 1983.
– Despite this, land registration, demolition (1988), and archaeological
intervention proceeded without a High Court determination of ownership and
without disclosure of earlier, locally known archaeological discoveries.
– A Roman burial reportedly discovered beneath the farmhouse in 1888 by
the occupying family appears not to have been reflected in later “rescue”
excavations (1978–1980) or the major 1994 excavation, which treated Roman
and early medieval burials as newly revealed.
Taken together, this produces an archival landscape in which:
– court files relating to decisive events appear absent or incomplete;
– later records imply finality where proceedings were in fact unresolved;
– and the destruction of a long-occupied medieval structure occurred
before the site’s known archaeological significance was formally
acknowledged.
I note and appreciate your confirmation that the principal judicial series
(J 157, J 83, J 84) contain no relevant material. Given the scale of the
consequences flowing from the dispute—forced removal, demolition of an
occupied dwelling, and loss of heritage fabric—the absence of supporting
court or administrative files is itself significant for researchers.
Accordingly, I would be grateful for guidance on the following procedural
points:
– how researchers are expected to interpret gaps or silence in the
archival record where substantial actions plainly occurred;
– whether related non-judicial records (for example, departmental,
planning, regulatory, or corporate records connected to land registration,
planning consent, or archaeological works) are more likely to sit outside
the obvious court series; and
– whether there is an appropriate mechanism for flagging concerns about
record completeness or contextual risk, without seeking alteration of the
records themselves.
For the avoidance of doubt, I am not alleging impropriety on the part of
The National Archives or its staff. My concern is to ensure that the
historical record is approached with appropriate caution where absence may
unintentionally convey certainty or closure that did not exist at the time.
Thank you again for your time and professionalism.
Yours sincerely,
Sion Buckler
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M06 · 08 Feb 2026 09:57 UTC · Sion Buckler · Re: Response to National Archives case number CAS-313954-Y6C0H3 CRM:022601127
Ms Smith,
Thank you for your detailed response regarding selection policies and
retention schedules. I appreciate the procedural clarity you have provided.
However, I must respectfully indicate that your reply does not address the
substantive concerns I have raised, and I am now compelled to escalate this
matter formally.
[personal passage omitted — not about the farm case]
You correctly note that archival silences are well-documented in academic
literature. [personal passage omitted — not about the farm case]
2. The Computerised Records Question
You direct me to search your catalogue. I have done so. However, I now ask
specifically:
– Does The National Archives hold any digitised or microfilmed copies of
the Bute Estate records that might contain references to the Daniel
Thomas quarrying agreement (circa 1895-1905) or the 1938 auction at the
Bear Hotel?
– Are there any internal indices or finding aids (particularly from the
1970s-1980s) that might reference Great House Farm, Llandough, or the
BP/Western Ground Rents acquisition records that are not reflected in the
current online catalogue?
The 1994 archaeological excavation report (Cotswold Archaeological Trust)
confirms the site’s national significance. The absence of corresponding
land transaction records from the same period is itself an anomaly
requiring explanation.
3. The BP Corporate Records Question
You note that parties are generally responsible for maintaining their own
records. However, BP Properties Ltd and BP Pension Trust Ltd were corporate
entities with statutory filing obligations. I ask:
– Were any BP corporate records relating to land acquisition in South
Glamorgan (1969-1988) selected for preservation under the Companies Act
or as part of the public record?
– Has The National Archives ever received or sought records from BP
regarding the Great House Farm acquisition, demolition, or the 1987
litigation?
The Court of Appeal judgment [1987] EWCA Civ 2 notes that BP issued letters
on 31 October 1974, not received until November 4th 1974 —letters that were
allegedly “accepted by silence.” [personal passage omitted — not about the farm case] If
these were not preserved, I ask under what authority they were destroyed
and whether this occurred before or after the litigation concluded.
4. Request for Formal Investigation
I am not seeking annotation of records. I am seeking:
1. A formal review of whether records relating to Great House Farm,
Llandough (ST 168 733) were selected for preservation, destroyed, or
remain non accessioned;
2. A search of microfilm, digitised, or legacy finding aid holdings for
any reference to the 1938 auction, Western Ground Rents acquisition, or the
Daniel Thomas quarrying agreement;
3. Confirmation of whether The National Archives has ever received
complaints regarding missing Bute Estate records or BP land acquisition
documents from other researchers;
4. Guidance on the appropriate authority to investigate allegations of
document removal from Cardiff Library (1984) and potential fraud in the
1982 land registration.
5. Public Interest and Parliamentary Scrutiny
This matter involves:
– The forced removal of a family from land occupied since at least 1667
[personal passage omitted — not about the farm case]
– A Court of Appeal decision ([1987] EWCA Civ 2) that may have relied on
incomplete or fraudulent evidence
I am copying my MP and the Parliamentary Ombudsman in this correspondence.
I will also be submitting a Subject Access Request to HM Land Registry
regarding the 1982 registration and a complaint to the Information
Commissioner’s Office regarding potential destruction of records relevant
to ongoing property disputes.
I request a substantive response addressing the specific questions above
within 20 working days. Should The National Archives be unable to assist
further, I request a formal referral to the appropriate body with
jurisdiction over historical record fraud and spoliation.
Yours sincerely,
Sion Buckler
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M07 · 08 Feb 2026 14:22 UTC · Sion Buckler · Re: Response to National Archives case number CAS-313954-Y6C0H3 CRM:022601127 | Correction | Forensic Evaluation and Assessment of Restitutionary Claims
Correction
In my previous correspondence, I referenced documents missing from Cardiff
Library as “reported missing in 1984.” I wish to clarify that this date
derives from my family’s own chronology and recollection, not from an
official report or confirmed archival record. I should not have stated this
as an established fact, and I apologise for any confusion caused.
New Evidence
Since my last email, I have obtained a Forensic Evaluation and Assessment
of Restitutionary Claims (dated February 8, 2026) regarding the
dispossession of the Williams family from Great House Farm, Llandough. This
professional assessment provides additional context that may assist in
understanding the archival gaps previously identified.
The forensic report specifically examines:
1. The “Mrs. Buckler” nomenclature: The analysis characterises the
consistent use of “Mrs. Buckler” in court records and correspondence as
“strategic misnaming” rather than clerical error, given that Mary Williams
never adopted her husband’s surname. This raises questions about whether
The National Archives holds any records indicating her formal objection to
this identification or her consistent use of “Mary Williams” in legal
proceedings.
2. The 1974 license letters: The report notes that letters dated
October/November 1974 were addressed to a “non-existent legal persona,”
facilitating a judicial finding of “silence as consent.” I ask again
whether The National Archives holds any corporate records from BP
Properties Ltd or BP Pension Trust Ltd regarding this correspondence, or
any indication that such records were considered for preservation.
3. The 1974 adjournment: The forensic assessment questions why
proceedings were adjourned part-heard on July 3, 1974, given your
confirmation that principal judicial series contain no relevant material. I
request clarification on whether any Cardiff County Court records from
1974-1975 were transferred to The National Archives under subsequent
protocols, or whether they remain with the court.
Revised Request
Given this additional professional analysis, I renew my request for
guidance on:
– Whether The National Archives has received any complaints or inquiries
regarding missing Bute Estate records or Great House Farm documents from
other researchers;
– Whether corporate records from BP entities relating to this
acquisition were ever selected for preservation; and
– Whether any mechanism exists for flagging concerns about record
completeness where forensic analysis suggests potential irregularities in
the historical record.
I remain grateful for your time and professionalism, and I hope this
clarification assists in addressing my inquiry.
Yours sincerely,
Sion Buckler
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M08 · 10 Feb 2026 22:15 UTC · Sion Buckler · Formal Notice for Record: Church View Close, Llandough / BP vs Buckler 1987
[personal passage omitted — not about the farm case]
Dear Sir/Madam,
This Notice is issued for placement on official record and for reliance. It
is not informal correspondence. [personal passage omitted — not about the farm case] Please report any suspicious activity and
discrepancies identified.
This Notice is issued in pursuit of narrative justice at this stage; formal
judicial remedies are expressly reserved. It serves to document our
family’s side of the story before it is completely erased and history
rewritten, ensuring awareness among custodians of land, heritage, heraldry,
archaeology, and public records.
My elder brother, Rhys Buckler, and I are the sons of the late William
Buckler (d. 1991), defendant in the landmark legal case *BP Properties Ltd
v Buckler* (1987), and the grandchildren of the late Mary Williams, whose
dispossession, marginalisation, and exclusion from judicial determination
remain unresolved matters of record. Mary Williams was repeatedly and
materially falsely addressed/mislabeled in legal and administrative records
as “Mrs Buckler,” a misidentification that was never judicially tested and
which directly affected the handling, scope, and outcome of proceedings.
The Williams/Buckler family held claim to the land title, having acquired
and occupied Great House Farm continuously since 1667, based on family
records, historical evidence, and centuries of resistance to adverse claims.
[personal passage omitted — not about the farm case]
This culminated in the 1988 demolition of an
800-year-old farmhouse amid police standoffs, leaving the family homeless
and the site scarred, now buried under Church View Close. Archaeological
vindication came too late—1994 excavations revealed over 1,000 Roman and
medieval burials, confirming family warnings (e.g., the 1870 Roman soldier
discovery under the living room floor[personal passage omitted — not about the farm case])—yet
heritage records celebrate the site while omitting our dispossession.
[personal passage omitted — not about the farm case]
In 1974, Mary Williams was twice prevented from presenting her case and
obtaining a judicial determination of superior ownership, despite claims
grounded in long occupation, intent, and possession. The court confined
inquiry to *animus possidendi* (intention to possess) and excluded *animus
domini* (intention to own), reclassifying her from putative owner to mere
occupier and foreclosing title adjudication. BP sought possession only, not
ownership rulings—a choice unexplained and significant. Proceedings were
adjourned or quashed without resolution.
This occurred despite evidence of ownership intent, including:
– Centuries-long occupation and resistance (e.g., failed 1938 auction
due to local support; post-1945 rent disputes).
– Roman-era remains and historical significance (e.g., Guglielmo
Marconi’s 1897 residence during radio experiments, with family aid erased
from records).
– Unformalized deals like the 1895–1905 Daniel Thomas quarrying
permission for promised title, undermined by vanished deeds.
Judicial ownership examination would have engaged archaeological/heritage
protections, incompatible with redevelopment—consequences avoided, raising
credibility concerns.
Serious unresolved anomalies persist, indicating something is still not
right with the record:
– Licence correspondence dated 31 October 1974 surfacing only on 4
November, potentially interrupting proceedings to prevent hearings.
– Claims of 1974 benevolent withdrawal under press scrutiny unsupported
by verifiable coverage.
– Land registration before Mary Williams’s 1983 death without title
determination[personal passage omitted — not about the farm case].
– Inconsistent treatment of BP entities across proceedings to family
detriment.
– Procedural barriers preventing effective defense (e.g., interrupted
essential services post-licence; 1960–1987 court rulings dismissing
ancestral title as “notion” without evidence).
– Knowing bypass of archaeological constraints (e.g., 1978 trenches
ignored; no contemporaneous 1970s/1990s press on discoveries amid
development).
– Missing key documents (e.g., 1667 conveyance, 1811–1835 Lambert
Williams agreements proving status, 1982–84 library deeds vanishing).
– Risks of further erasure: Heritage databases celebrate “Llandough
Roman villa cemetery” while omitting our saga; modern residents unaware of
the “battleground” site.
[personal passage omitted — not about the farm case]
Preliminary assessment indicates cumulative benefits from redevelopment
(absent title extinguishment) exceed £100 million, forming a basis for
reparations[personal passage omitted — not about the farm case].
I require relevant public servants, custodians, and office-holders
(including Land Registry, heraldry bodies, museums, archaeologists, MPs,
historians, and councillors) to cease delay, engage substantively,
review/correct/annotate records where defective, and prevent further
rewriting of history. Justice delayed is denied, especially with verifiable
evidence available.
This Notice:
– Challenges the record’s accuracy, completeness, and legitimacy.
– Place assertions of title/standing on record pending adjudication.
– Reserves all rights without prejudice.
[personal passage omitted — not about the farm case]
Regards, Sion Buckler On behalf of the Buckler–Williams family [removed], Wales. https://bpvsbuckler.datro.xyz
[personal passage omitted — not about the farm case]
M09 · 18 Feb 2026 17:30 UTC · Philip Gale · Formal Notice for Record: Church View Close, Llandough / BP vs Buckler 1987
Dear Mr Buckler,
Thank you for your e-mail of 10 February whose contents are noted. The National Archives does not hold any records relating to your enquiry. The Manorial Documents Register which this department administers is a register for the location of manorial documents and not of the ownership and descent of manorial titles:
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/archives-sector/finding-records-in-discovery-and-other-databases/manorial-documents-register/
A similar position holds for The National Archives responsibilities for public records and concerns about the past management of official records is a matter for the relevant government department such as HM Land Registry.
Yours sincerely
[The National Archives logo]
Philip Gale | Head of the Collections and Cultural Property Team
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M10 · 18 Feb 2026 17:49 UTC · Sion Buckler · Re: Formal Notice for Record: Church View Close, Llandough / BP vs Buckler 1987
Dear Mr Gale,
Thank you for your reply of 12 February. I would like to clarify and narrow
my request to ensure there is no misunderstanding regarding the records I
am trying to locate.
My correspondence is *not* seeking an adjudication of ownership or title —
I fully accept the stated remit boundaries of the Manorial Documents
Register (MDR). Rather, my enquiry concerns the existence of *any archival
reference, index card, catalogue entry, or pointer to a document
historically known as the “Williams Title”*, which was, according to
contemporaneous testimony [wiki edit, 19 Oct 2026: speaker not yet identified, SOURCE PENDING], at one point:
1.
Held in the *local public library* in the first half of the twentieth
century; and
2.
Indexed in some manner (e.g., an index card or catalogue reference) that
persisted even after the original document could not be located.
My understanding of the MDR — as described on your own website — is that it
exists to provide brief descriptions of manorial records and details of
their locations:
“An official index of English and Welsh manorial records providing brief
descriptions of documents and details of their locations… It does *not*
include title deeds or conveyances, and is *not* a register of ownership of
manorial lordships or rights.”
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/manor-search
<[link removed]
Based on that description, I would be grateful if you could confirm whether:
1.
*Any catalogue entries, index cards, reference pointers, or archival
descriptions* relating to the *Manor of Llandough* or the *Williams
family title* exist in the MDR or related archival catalogues.
2.
If so, the *reference identifiers* and information on how these can be
consulted in person or via digitised records.
To be precise, I am looking for historical references to the *index card or
listing* for the Williams Title — whether held in a library, local record
office, or other institutional archive — rather than a claim for ownership
judgment itself.
If such a reference does not currently appear in the MDR, I would greatly
appreciate guidance on where any known catalogue cards or entry lists for
manorial documents from *Glamorgan / Llandough* prior to 1950 might now
reside (e.g., regional archives, National Archives holdings, or affiliated
local repository catalogues).
Anyway I anticipate your forgiveness, if I have erred in writing to you
earlier.
Thank you again and in advance for your assistance.
Yours sincerely,
Sion Buckler
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M11 · 24 Feb 2026 16:50 UTC · Philip Gale · RE: Manor of Llandough – MDR Entries
Dear Mr Buckler,
Thank you for your e-mail and for clarifying the subject of your enquiry.
As you know the Manorial Documents Register (MDR) only gives general descriptions of the content, extent and location of the manorial records recorded in the register: LLANDOUGH MANOR | The National Archives<[link removed] The manorial records for the Manor of Llandough are held at the National Library of Wales, Glamorgan Archives and West Glamorgan Archives, and their catalogues can be accessed on-line : NLW Catalogue<https://discover.library.wales/discovery/search?vid=44WHELF_NLW:44WHELF_NLW_NUI> , Glamorgan Archives Catalogue<https://canfod.glamarchives.gov.uk/en/> and Archive Collections – Swansea<https://www.swansea.gov.uk/archivecollections?lang=en>
The Welsh entries in the online MDR were added in the 1990’s were based on the survey returns to the Manorial Documents Committee received from institutions and private owners during the 1920’s. These were subsequently passed to the custody of the Historical Manuscripts Commission in 1959 which amalgamated with the Public Record Office to form The National Archives in 2003. I have requested to see the original returns for Manor of Llandough to see if they can provide any additional information on the documentation relating to the manor (Ref. HMC 9/311: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C5879336 )
There are several other manors with a similar name in Glamorgan and a MDR search using the search term “Llandough” gives the following result: Search results: Llandough Glamorgan | The National Archives<https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/c?_q=Llandough&_sf=text_man&_ocn=Glamorgan&_naet=M&_st=mdrc> Sometimes the administration of different manors were brought together and this appears to have occurred with the Llandough and St May’s Church Manors : https://archives.library.wales/index.php/manors-of-llandough-and-st-mary-church
I will contact you again once I have had an opportunity to look at the original returns sent to Manorial Documents Committee. I hope this preliminary information is of assistance.
Yours sincerely
[The National Archives logo]
Philip Gale | Head of the Collections and Cultural Property Team
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M12 · 24 Feb 2026 17:41 UTC · Sion Buckler · Re: Manor of Llandough – MDR Entries
You are a delight.
My family thanks you.
This means a great deal.
Sion
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M13 · 26 Feb 2026 17:44 UTC · Philip Gale · FW: Manor of Llandough – MDR Entries
Dear Mr Buckler,
I have had an opportunity to view the file of original returns to the Manorial Documents Committee (Ref. HMC9/311) and the single return for the Manor of Llandough (see the attached image), and it provides less information than the existing entries on the on-line MDR. The information on the other manors in the return is equally sparse This may be because many of the surviving manorial records were not in custody of the National Library of Wales at the time of the original survey.
The best course of action is to search the archive service catalogues, and particularly the on-line catalogue of the National Library of Wales. Is it difficult to advise you further without more information, for example do you have rough date for the document called ‘Williams’s Title? A particularly relevant archive collection appears to be the Penrice and Margam Estate Records, [c. 1147]-[19 cent.] / Penrice and Margam estate. – National Library of Wales<https://discover.library.wales/discovery/fulldisplay?docid=alma99193071102419&context=L&vid=44WHELF_NLW:44WHELF_NLW_NUI&lang=en&search_scope=In_The_Library&adaptor=Local%20Search%20Engine&tab=In_The_Library&query=any,contains,Talbots%20of%20margam%20archives&offset=0> as it includes the surviving manorial records for Llandough.
There is useful guidance on the different types of title deeds published by the University of Nottingham which might be helpful when searching catalogues and consulting original property records:
Introduction to deeds in depth – The University of Nottingham<https://www.nottingham.ac.uk/manuscriptsandspecialcollections/researchguidance/deedsindepth/introduction.aspx>
I am sorry not to be able to provide any additional sources for your continuing research.
Kind regards
[The National Archives logo]
Philip Gale | Head of the Collections and Cultural Property Team
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M14 · 26 Feb 2026 22:00 UTC · Sion Buckler · Re: FW: Manor of Llandough – MDR Entries
Dear Mr. Gale,
Thank you again for your helpful reply and for viewing the original
Manorial Documents Committee returns (HMC9/311). I entirely understand that
it is difficult to advise further without more specifics, and I am grateful
for the steer toward the Penrice and Margam Estate Records and the NLW
catalogue.
To answer your question directly: the document historically referred to
within the family as the *“Williams Title”* (or the equitable interest
conveyance that underpinned it) dates to the period *c. 1900–1915*. It
arises from an agreement between John Williams (occupier of Great House
Farm / Ty Mawr / Cedfin) and Daniel Thomas & Son (Bute Estate quarry
operators / limestoners). In essence, the Williams family granted
permission for quarrying on part of the farm in return for equitable title
/ permanent security of tenure once quarrying was complete. Daniel Thomas
is said to have formalised his side by a land-swap deed with the Bute
Estate (copy formerly held in Cardiff Library, now reported missing along
with its index card in 1984).
This places the key transaction squarely in the early 20th-century Bute
estate rationalisation period, immediately before the 1916 agricultural
tenancy to John Williams and the 1915 death of Daniel Thomas (after which
Bute attempted eviction, only for the equitable interest to be asserted
successfully at the time). Testimony [wiki edit, 19 Oct 2026: Mary Williams, witness statement c.1974, Mary Williams testimony], supported by the 1876
limeworks severance (Glamorgan Archives D153/4-8) and the known industrial
quarrying context, points to this narrow window as the origin of the modern
title dispute.
*Why this matters now* The 1987 Court of Appeal decision (*BP Properties
Ltd v Buckler*) turned on the technical effect of 1974 unilateral licence
letters addressed to “Mrs Buckler” – a name my grandmother Mary Williams
(née Williams) never used in her marriage or death records. By addressing
her under this legal fiction, the proceedings bypassed any adjudication of
the Williams equitable title that had been recognised as late as 1915. As
the principle “fraud unravels all” makes clear, once the foundational
misnomer is identified, the entire chain of subsequent possession orders,
licences and registration falls to be re-examined. My grandmother and her
heirs therefore retain the superior land claim; the 1988 dispossession and
demolition of the 800-year-old farmhouse constitute actionable loss for
which reparations are now sought.
To strengthen the evidential base I have prepared a one-page interactive
timeline (hosted at [insert your hosted link here after uploading]) that
highlights every event directly relevant to the “Williams Title” period.
With your elevated archival access, you will immediately see where to focus
searches in the Penrice and Margam or Bute collections (e.g., 1895–1916
leases, conveyances, limeworks/quarrying files, and any Daniel Thomas
references).
I would be most grateful if you could now guide me to the precise
sub-series or box references within those collections that cover Llandough
manorial transactions in the 1900–1916 window. Any surviving index cards,
rental entries, or correspondence mentioning John Williams / Daniel Thomas
in connection with Great House Farm would be transformative.
Thank you once more for your time and expertise. I look forward to your
further assistance.
Kind regards
Sion Buckler
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M16 · 03 Mar 2026 14:31 UTC · Philip Gale · RE: FW: Manor of Llandough – MDR Entries
Dear Mr Buckler,
Thank you for your e-mail and additional information explaining the background to your enquiry.
Unfortunately, apart from the pre-war survey returns The National Archives has only the only information recorded on-line MDR, and the following entry appears most pertinent to your enquiry held at the Glamorgan Archives: court book, with other manors D/D B M/3<https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/N14274780> for 1884-1937 held at Glamorgan Archives. We do not hold any other finding manorial finding aids such as old index cards as the entries were updated in 1990’s summarising the archive services catalogues of the time. Also, I have no more access or information relating to the various archive collections held outside of The National Archives than any other researcher. The Bute Estate Archives held at the Glamorgan Archive Service are catalogued under collection reference DB: Bute, Glamorgan Estate<https://canfod.glamarchives.gov.uk/en/records/DB>
The only physical source we hold is a paper copy of the catalogue of 370 pages of the ‘Stuart family, Marquesses of Bute Archives: manorial records and estate papers, mainly rel to Glamorgan and Monmouthshire estates’ deposited at the National Library of Wales (NLW) in July 1950 (Ref. NRA 581) which submitted to the National of Register of Archives which now has a summarised entry in our on-line catalogue Discovery: Glamorganshire (Cardiff, Llantrisant, etc) and Monmouthshire (Newport, Machen, etc, NRA Stuart 581<https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/N13577100> The reference to the Manors of Leckwith, Llandough, Cogan Cosmeston and Walterson is M17, pages 113-116 of the catalogue although most of the material predates 1900. This can be viewed at the library reading room at The National Archive by prior appointment. The Bute Estate archives for Glamorgan appear to be held at the National Library of Wales and the Glamorgan Archive Service. The NLW paper catalogue (Ref. NRA 581) broadly mirrors the NLW on-line catalogue: Bute Estate Records, – National Library of Wales Archives and Manuscripts<https://archives.library.wales/index.php/bute-estate-records>
A possibility worth bearing in mind is that the property, Great House Farm / Ty Mawr / Cedfin may ceased to have been held by copyhold tenure by 1900 and instead may have been held instead by a leasehold tenancy which if this was the case the manorial records will not be relevant to your research. As you mentioned the Bute estate interests were steadily disposed of from c1900 culminating in sale of the estate’s leasehold interest to the Western Ground Rents Company in 1938. This led to the widespread dispersal and possibly destruction of the Bute estate records which makes it particularly challenging to track down and identify individual documents. Furthermore, catalogues often include bundle lists with individual documents concealed by a general description of the contents of the whole bundle.
I regret I cannot be of any further assistance; however I hope your further research proves fruitful.
Kind regards
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M18 · 16 Jul 2026 00:44 UTC · Sion Buckler · Freedom of Information / Historical Records Request – Mr. Williams, Cardiff Post Office Engineering Department, 1897 Marconi Lavernock Experiments
Dear Information Rights / Archives Team,
I am writing to request information under the Freedom of Information Act
2000 (or equivalent records access) regarding my grandfather, Mr. Williams,
who worked in the engineering department of the Cardiff Post Office /
General Post Office around 1897.
Specifically, I seek any records, personnel files, correspondence, reports,
or mentions confirming his involvement in Guglielmo Marconi’s wireless
telegraphy experiments at Lavernock Point (including erecting the 120-foot
pole and related tests to Flat Holm). This relates to contemporary
newspaper reports from May 1897.
Please provide:
– Any personnel or service records for Mr. Williams in the Cardiff
engineering department circa 1897.
– Documents referencing “Mr. Williams” in connection with Marconi’s
demonstrations.
– Any other relevant historical files from the GPO telegraph/engineering
teams.
Grandson
I am ultimately seeking any record about my great grandfather Mr Williams
of Great House Farm, Llandough, Cardiff (formerly Vale of Glamorgan). Not
to be confused with Great House Farm, Llandough, Cowbridge, Vale of
Glamorgan. And his role in the Marconi experiment. And before and after
Marconis stay with our family in our home in 1897.
I am happy to provide further identification if required. Thank you for
your assistance.
Best regards,
Sion Buckler [personal passage omitted — not about the farm case]
M19 · 27 Jul 2026 17:57 UTC · Sion Buckler · Great House Farm, Llandough, Cardiff
Under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 I request the following recorded
information held by the National Library of Wales:
Any manorial court rolls, surveys, rentals, terriers, or related documents
for the Manor of Llandough (Glamorgan) covering the period c.1600–1670 that
list or refer to occupants, customary tenants, or holders of land later
known as Great House Farm (or equivalent contemporary descriptions).
Any estate papers, correspondence, leases, rentals, account books, or
surveys of the Vaughan family of Llandough (or related Vaughan holdings)
that mention a lease, renewal, confirmation, surrender, or new grant of
land at Great House Farm / Llandough around or before 1667.
Any catalogue descriptions, finding aids, or indexes that identify pre-1667
deeds, court-roll entries, or estate surveys referring to the family’s
holding at this property.
Please confirm whether such material is held and, if so, provide the
relevant catalogue references and any available descriptions or copies (or
advise on access arrangements). If any information is exempt, please state
the exemption(s) relied upon.
Yours faithfully,
Sion Buckler [personal passage omitted — not about the farm case]
M20 · 30 Jul 2026 13:56 UTC · Contact Centre · Response to enquiry at The National Archives. Case number CAS-343481-X5H3M6 CRM:016207464
Dear Sion Buckler,
Thank you for contacting The National Archives of the United Kingdom.
I’m afraid we are not the right place to come to for your enquiry. We hold historical records sent to us by central government departments and law courts for permanent preservation. I regret, therefore, that I’m unable to help you with your enquiry.
I suggest you contact The National Library of Wales<https://www.library.wales/>.
I wish you every success with your research.
Yours sincerely,
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Under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 I request the following recorded information held by the National Library of Wales:
Any manorial court rolls, surveys, rentals, terriers, or related documents for the Manor of Llandough (Glamorgan) covering the period c.1600–1670 that list or refer to occupants, customary tenants, or holders of land later known as Great House Farm (or equivalent contemporary descriptions).
Any estate papers, correspondence, leases, rentals, account books, or surveys of the Vaughan family of Llandough (or related Vaughan holdings) that mention a lease, renewal, confirmation, surrender, or new grant of land at Great House Farm / Llandough around or before 1667.
Any catalogue descriptions, finding aids, or indexes that identify pre-1667 deeds, court-roll entries, or estate surveys referring to the family’s holding at this property.
Please confirm whether such material is held and, if so, provide the relevant catalogue references and any available descriptions or copies (or advise on access arrangements). If any information is exempt, please state the exemption(s) relied upon.
Yours faithfully,
Sion Buckler (Ret’d Sergeant)
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M21 · 30 Jul 2026 17:54 UTC · Sion Buckler · Re: Response to enquiry at The National Archives. Case number CAS-343481-X5H3M6 CRM:016207464
Dear Patricia Reynolds,
Thank you for your response of 30 July 2026 (Case number CAS-343481-X5H3M6).
I note your advice that The National Archives is not the primary repository
for the material described in my original enquiry. However, my enquiry also
concerns whether The National Archives holds any recorded information
relating to the existence, transfer, retention, destruction, or absence of
such records.
Under the Freedom of Information Act 2000, I request confirmation of any
recorded information held by The National Archives relating to Great House
Farm / Ty Mawr, Llandough (Glamorgan), including historical references
under alternative descriptions such as Cedfin or equivalent contemporary
descriptions.
Specifically, please confirm whether The National Archives holds:
1. *Manorial and estate records*
Any catalogue entries, Manorial Documents Register information, finding
aids, transfer records, or related documentation concerning:
– the Manor of Llandough (Glamorgan);
– pre-1667 references to occupants, customary tenants, holdings,
surveys, rentals, terriers, or court rolls;
– Vaughan family estate holdings at Llandough;
– Great House Farm / Ty Mawr or any earlier description of the holding.
Please include any references to HMC9/311 or related archival series.
2. *Records concerning disposal, destruction, or transfer of records*
Any recorded information showing:
– whether records relating to Great House Farm, Llandough, the Bute
Estate, Vaughan family papers, or associated land records were ever
transferred to The National Archives;
– whether any such records were destroyed, and if so:
– what records were destroyed;
– when they were destroyed;
– under which retention schedule, disposal authority, or policy;
– which body authorised or carried out the destruction.
If no such records are held, please confirm whether any disposal or
transfer records indicate that relevant material was never deposited or was
destroyed elsewhere.
3. *Legal and court records*
Any central court records, indexes, correspondence, or administrative
records concerning:
– possession or title disputes involving Great House Farm / Ty Mawr;
– Western Ground Rents Ltd;
– BP Pension Trust Ltd;
– BP Properties Ltd;
– Mountjoy Ltd;
– the proceedings connected with *BP Properties Ltd v Buckler* [1987]
EWCA Civ 2.
4. *Estate transfers and ownership records*
Any government-held correspondence, files, or records relating to:
– the Bute Estate;
– the 1938 sale or transfer of Great House Farm;
– Western Ground Rents Ltd acquisition;
– BP Pension Trust/BP Properties involvement;
– any government department involvement in the property.
5. *Family correspondence and related records*
Any correspondence, reports, enquiries, or administrative records held by
The National Archives involving:
– Mary Williams;
– Fred Buckler;
– William Buckler;
– the Williams/Buckler family;
– Great House Farm / Ty Mawr;
– Bute Estate representatives;
– Western Ground Rents;
– BP entities.
6. *1980–1988 period and demolition/eviction matters*
Any records concerning:
– the public campaign regarding Great House Farm;
– parliamentary correspondence or government enquiries;
– the 1988 eviction/demolition;
– Cadw or government communications;
– European Commission of Human Rights Application 14464/88 (Buckler v
United Kingdom).
If any relevant information is held, please provide catalogue references,
descriptions, and access arrangements.
If no relevant information is held, please confirm:
– the searches undertaken;
– the catalogues, databases, and record series searched;
– whether any relevant records were ever held and subsequently
transferred, destroyed, or disposed of.
I am pursuing parallel enquiries with the National Library of Wales,
Glamorgan Archives and other repositories. This request is specifically
directed at recorded information held by The National Archives.
Yours sincerely,
Sion Buckler [personal passage omitted — not about the farm case]
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M23 · 12 Aug 2026 12:24 UTC · RESO Records Enquiries · Response to National Archives enquiry. Case number CAS-344046-K1S1R2 CRM:021100306
Dear Sion Buckler,
Thank you for contacting The National Archives of the United Kingdom.
Records relating to the transfer, retention or destruction of material can be found on our catalogue within the record series created by the Public Record Office (departmental code PRO) and The National Archives (departmental code RW).
I have searched our catalogue, via the advanced search page<https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/advanced-search> for records using (“Great House Farm” OR “Ty Mawr” OR Llandough OR Cedfin) AND Glamorgan as search terms within the file series PRO and RW. As you can see here, this search did not yield any results<https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_aq=%28%22Great%20House%20Farm%22%20OR%20%22Ty%20Mawr%22%20OR%20Llandough%20OR%20Cedfin%29%20AND%20Glamorgan&_cr=pro%7Crw&_dss=range&_ro=any&_st=adv>. You can try some similar searches yourself.
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Records are represented in our online catalogue by a title, a reference and a brief description. When you search our catalogue using keywords you are searching across these titles and descriptions, rather than the contents of the records themselves.
By clicking on any search result, you can see whether the record is available online or if you need to visit us to view the original. You can also request copies of records from their catalogue description page.
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Dear Patricia Reynolds,
Thank you for your response of 30 July 2026 (Case number CAS-343481-X5H3M6).
I note your advice that The National Archives is not the primary repository for the material described in my original enquiry. However, my enquiry also concerns whether The National Archives holds any recorded information relating to the existence, transfer, retention, destruction, or absence of such records.
Under the Freedom of Information Act 2000, I request confirmation of any recorded information held by The National Archives relating to Great House Farm / Ty Mawr, Llandough (Glamorgan), including historical references under alternative descriptions such as Cedfin or equivalent contemporary descriptions.
Specifically, please confirm whether The National Archives holds:
1. Manorial and estate records
Any catalogue entries, Manorial Documents Register information, finding aids, transfer records, or related documentation concerning:
* the Manor of Llandough (Glamorgan);
* pre-1667 references to occupants, customary tenants, holdings, surveys, rentals, terriers, or court rolls;
* Vaughan family estate holdings at Llandough;
* Great House Farm / Ty Mawr or any earlier description of the holding.
Please include any references to HMC9/311 or related archival series.
1. Records concerning disposal, destruction, or transfer of records
Any recorded information showing:
* whether records relating to Great House Farm, Llandough, the Bute Estate, Vaughan family papers, or associated land records were ever transferred to The National Archives;
* whether any such records were destroyed, and if so:
* what records were destroyed;
* when they were destroyed;
* under which retention schedule, disposal authority, or policy;
* which body authorised or carried out the destruction.
If no such records are held, please confirm whether any disposal or transfer records indicate that relevant material was never deposited or was destroyed elsewhere.
1. Legal and court records
Any central court records, indexes, correspondence, or administrative records concerning:
* possession or title disputes involving Great House Farm / Ty Mawr;
* Western Ground Rents Ltd;
* BP Pension Trust Ltd;
* BP Properties Ltd;
* Mountjoy Ltd;
* the proceedings connected with BP Properties Ltd v Buckler [1987] EWCA Civ 2.
1. Estate transfers and ownership records
Any government-held correspondence, files, or records relating to:
* the Bute Estate;
* the 1938 sale or transfer of Great House Farm;
* Western Ground Rents Ltd acquisition;
* BP Pension Trust/BP Properties involvement;
* any government department involvement in the property.
1. Family correspondence and related records
Any correspondence, reports, enquiries, or administrative records held by The National Archives involving:
* Mary Williams;
* Fred Buckler;
* William Buckler;
* the Williams/Buckler family;
* Great House Farm / Ty Mawr;
* Bute Estate representatives;
* Western Ground Rents;
* BP entities.
1. 1980–1988 period and demolition/eviction matters
Any records concerning:
* the public campaign regarding Great House Farm;
* parliamentary correspondence or government enquiries;
* the 1988 eviction/demolition;
* Cadw or government communications;
* European Commission of Human Rights Application 14464/88 (Buckler v United Kingdom).
If any relevant information is held, please provide catalogue references, descriptions, and access arrangements.
If no relevant information is held, please confirm:
* the searches undertaken;
* the catalogues, databases, and record series searched;
* whether any relevant records were ever held and subsequently transferred, destroyed, or disposed of.
I am pursuing parallel enquiries with the National Library of Wales, Glamorgan Archives and other repositories. This request is specifically directed at recorded information held by The National Archives.
Yours sincerely,
Sion Buckler (Ret’d Sergeant)
Royal Signals Cyber & Electronic Warfare Professional and Life Member
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M24 · 12 Aug 2026 23:43 UTC · Sion Buckler · Re: Response to National Archives enquiry. Case number CAS-344046-K1S1R2 CRM:021100306
Sarah Abbott,
Thank you for your response.
I have considered it carefully. Unfortunately, it does not appear to answer
the FOI enquiry I submitted.
My request was deliberately framed more broadly than a simple catalogue
search for the words “Great House Farm”, “Ty Mawr”, “Llandough” or
“Cedfin”. I specifically asked The National Archives to identify recorded
information concerning the *existence, transfer, retention, destruction,
disposal or absence of records*, including records that might not be
catalogued under the property’s later or local names.
Your response confirms only that you searched the PRO and RW series using:
“Great House Farm” OR “Ty Mawr” OR Llandough OR Cedfin
combined with “Glamorgan”, and that this produced no catalogue results.
You also correctly state that Discovery searches catalogue titles and
descriptions rather than the contents of records. That qualification is
important, because it means the search described cannot establish that
relevant records did not exist, were never transferred, or were destroyed.
In particular, your response does not appear to address the other
categories expressly identified in my request, including searches or
recorded information relating to:
– Western Ground Rents Ltd;
– BP Pension Trust Ltd;
– BP Properties Ltd;
– Mountjoy Ltd;
– the proceedings in *BP Properties Ltd v Buckler* [1987] EWCA Civ 2;
– the 1982–1983 registration and associated government or administrative
records;
– the 1980–1988 public campaign and governmental correspondence;
– the 1988 eviction and demolition;
– Cadw or central-government communications concerning the property;
– European Commission of Human Rights Application 14464/88;
– records concerning transfer, destruction or disposal of potentially
relevant material; and
– HMC9/311 or related archival references.
These alternative lines of enquiry are intentional. The purpose is to
establish whether relevant information can be identified through the
*government
bodies, corporate entities, court proceedings, administrative processes and
archival transfers associated with the property*, rather than relying
solely upon the modern name by which the property is known.
I am conducting corresponding enquiries with other repositories and public
bodies. This is specifically intended to triangulate the documentary
history where records may have been catalogued under a different creator,
department, legal proceeding, estate, corporate body or administrative
function.
I therefore ask that you do not treat the absence of a Discovery keyword
hit as an answer to the substantive questions raised.
Please clarify:
1.
*Whether the searches undertaken were limited to the PRO and RW
catalogue series and the four property/location search terms identified in
your email.*
2.
*Whether The National Archives searched for the named corporate bodies,
court proceedings and application references identified in my request*,
rather than only searching the property names.
3.
*Whether The National Archives holds any recorded transfer, accession,
disposal, destruction or retention information* indicating that records
concerning the relevant property, estate, companies, litigation or
government involvement were transferred elsewhere, destroyed, or otherwise
disposed of.
4.
If such information is not held, *whether this is because no such
records are held, because no relevant records were ever transferred to TNA,
or because TNA’s catalogue/search systems contain no discoverable
description of them.*
5.
Whether *HMC9/311* or related series have been checked, or whether that
reference falls outside the search undertaken.
6.
Whether there are *central-government, court, departmental or
administrative records relating to the litigation and entities identified
above which may contain references to the property without using “Great
House Farm”, “Ty Mawr”, “Llandough” or “Cedfin” in the catalogue
description.*
For the avoidance of doubt, I am not asking The National Archives to infer
the contents of uncatalogued records or to undertake an unlimited research
project. I am asking for confirmation of the *recorded information held by
TNA concerning the existence, provenance, transfer, retention, destruction
or disposal of potentially relevant records*, and for the searches
undertaken to locate that information.
That distinction is particularly important because a catalogue search
returning no result is not equivalent to a finding that no relevant
historical, governmental or archival records existed.
I would therefore be grateful if this could be reconsidered as a response
to the scope of the original FOI enquiry rather than treated solely as a
request for assistance with a Discovery keyword search.
I am continuing parallel enquiries with the National Library of Wales,
Glamorgan Archives, Cadw, RCAHMW, HM Land Registry and other relevant
bodies. The purpose of these enquiries is to establish the documentary
chain independently and to identify where records were created,
transferred, retained or potentially destroyed.
[personal passage omitted — not about the farm case] It’s possible I discovered a
major mistake or oversight was made in our landmark legal case BP vs
Buckler 1987, which resulted in our ownership claim of our 800 year old
home, on land we’d occupied since 1667, being ignored [personal passage omitted — not about the farm case] The first time we’d been out of our
house since the 16th century. [personal passage omitted — not about the farm case]
is a matter of public interest
not just a family matter, because of the historic and archelogical
significants of our land and property, subsequently characterised by GGAT
as a “county treasure”, which CADW, under very questionable and unanswered
circumstances refused to list to prevent its demolition, least of all while
we were still living in it as a family for the 3rd consecuting century. The
planning/development process did not correctly engaged with the
archaeological significance and a significant site of national interest was
demolished. [personal passage omitted — not about the farm case] CADW have admitted
destroying records after not listing. [personal passage omitted — not about the farm case]
My dads ECHR (Buckler vs United
Kingdom 1989) was dismissing in lieu of BP’s rights, citing them as the
owners – yet there has never a ruling of their ownership claim and our
ownership claim has never been estinguished.
I really do not mean to burden you or your office with this matter more
than is welcomed by yourselves. I’m merely just emphasising the importance
and significanfs of any and every crumb of information that can be located
and disclosed. Every detail is instrumental in my investigation and
research and quest for justice for my family. [personal passage omitted — not about the farm case]
All I can do at this juncture is appeal to your offices and look forward to
any clarification of the searches undertaken and the recorded information
held by The National Archives and your offices final position on this
matter, for the history books and record. And I thank you in advance and
for your co-operation.
Regards,
Sion Buckler [personal passage omitted — not about the farm case]
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M25 · 17 Aug 2026 14:10 UTC · FOI Requests · Freedom of Information Request: Reference CAS-347296-M0V4Y1 CRM:058801783
Dear Ret’d Sergeant Sion Buckler,
Thank you for your request received on 13/08/2026 06:00 for corporate information (business records) held by The National Archives.
We are handling your request under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 and have given it reference number CAS-347296-M0V4Y1
We will respond to you by 11/09/2026 18:00 in accordance with the 20 working-day time period laid down by section 10 of the Act.
You can find out more about Freedom of Information on our website: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/foi/<http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/foi/>
Yours sincerely,
FOI Centre Service Advisor
Freedom of Information Centre
Public Access and Government Services Directorate
The National Archives
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M26 · 20 Aug 2026 08:28 UTC · Sion Buckler · Case reference: CAS-344046-K1S1R2
Records Enquiries Team,
Case reference: CAS-344046-K1S1R2
I wrote to you on 12 August 2026 with a follow-up refining my earlier
enquiry concerning National Farm Survey / MAFF records relating to Great
House Farm (Ty Mawr), Llandough, Vale of Glamorgan (Williams / Buckler
family interest).
I have not yet received a substantive reply to that follow-up and would be
grateful for an update on progress and the expected timescale for a full
response.
In addition, please expand the scope of the search to include any records
held relating to the Glamorgan War Agricultural Executive Committee (“War
Ag” / CWAEC) and Great House Farm / the relevant land at Llandough,
covering approximately 1936–1950 (with particular focus on 1939–1945). This
should include, where held:
Any orders, notices or decisions taking possession of, directing
cultivation of, or otherwise requisitioning land forming part of Great
House Farm (or the specific parcel now associated with Llandough Motor
Sales / Llandough Trading Estate).
Any compensation claims, assessments, payments or settlements under the
Compensation (Defence) Act 1939 or related wartime legislation, including
the identity of the recipient(s).
Relevant minutes, correspondence or case files of the Glamorgan CWAEC
concerning the farm or land in question.
Any related material in the MAF series that links the National Farm Survey
entries with wartime agricultural possession or compensation.
I hold original documents recording compensation payments in connection
with this land and am seeking to identify the wartime status of the holding
and the party recognised as entitled to compensation.
Please link this expanded request to the existing case reference
CAS-344046-K1S1R2 so that the searches can be coordinated.
Thank you for your assistance. I look forward to your reply.
Regards,
Sion Buckler [personal passage omitted — not about the farm case]
M27 · 20 Aug 2026 13:47 UTC · FOI Requests · Freedom of Information Request: Reference CAS-347296-M0V4Y1 CRM:007302424
Dear Ret’d Sergeant Sion Buckler,
Thank you for your enquiry of 13/08/2026 regarding a review of:
We are handling your request under the Freedom of Information Act 2000.
From our initial assessment it is clear that we will not be able to answer your request without further clarification. Under section 1(3) of the Act, a public authority need not comply with a request unless any further information reasonably required to locate the information is supplied.
In order to progress your request, we require clarification on the scope of your request.
The FOI Centre has received a request for the following:
My request was deliberately framed more broadly than a simple catalogue search for the words “Great House Farm”, “Ty Mawr”, “Llandough” or “Cedfin”. I specifically asked The National Archives to identify recorded information concerning the existence, transfer, retention, destruction, disposal or absence of records, including records that might not be catalogued under the property’s later or local names.
Your response confirms only that you searched the PRO and RW series using:
“Great House Farm” OR “Ty Mawr” OR Llandough OR Cedfin
combined with “Glamorgan”, and that this produced no catalogue results.
You also correctly state that Discovery searches catalogue titles and descriptions rather than the contents of records. That qualification is important, because it means the search described cannot establish that relevant records did not exist, were never transferred, or were destroyed.
In particular, your response does not appear to address the other categories expressly identified in my request, including searches or recorded information relating to:
* Western Ground Rents Ltd;
* BP Pension Trust Ltd;
* BP Properties Ltd;
* Mountjoy Ltd;
* the proceedings in BP Properties Ltd v Buckler [1987] EWCA Civ 2;
* the 1982–1983 registration and associated government or administrative records;
* the 1980–1988 public campaign and governmental correspondence;
* the 1988 eviction and demolition;
* Cadw or central-government communications concerning the property;
* European Commission of Human Rights Application 14464/88;
* records concerning transfer, destruction or disposal of potentially relevant material; and
* HMC9/311 or related archival references.
These alternative lines of enquiry are intentional. The purpose is to establish whether relevant information can be identified through the government bodies, corporate entities, court proceedings, administrative processes and archival transfers associated with the property, rather than relying solely upon the modern name by which the property is known.
I am conducting corresponding enquiries with other repositories and public bodies. This is specifically intended to triangulate the documentary history where records may have been catalogued under a different creator, department, legal proceeding, estate, corporate body or administrative function.
I therefore ask that you do not treat the absence of a Discovery keyword hit as an answer to the substantive questions raised.
Please clarify:
1. Whether the searches undertaken were limited to the PRO and RW catalogue series and the four property/location search terms identified in your email.
1. Whether The National Archives searched for the named corporate bodies, court proceedings and application references identified in my request, rather than only searching the property names.
1. Whether The National Archives holds any recorded transfer, accession, disposal, destruction or retention information indicating that records concerning the relevant property, estate, companies, litigation or government involvement were transferred elsewhere, destroyed, or otherwise disposed of.
1. If such information is not held, whether this is because no such records are held, because no relevant records were ever transferred to TNA, or because TNA’s catalogue/search systems contain no discoverable description of them.
1. Whether HMC9/311 or related series have been checked, or whether that reference falls outside the search undertaken.
1. Whether there are central-government, court, departmental or administrative records relating to the litigation and entities identified above which may contain references to the property without using “Great House Farm”, “Ty Mawr”, “Llandough” or “Cedfin” in the catalogue description.
For the avoidance of doubt, I am not asking The National Archives to infer the contents of uncatalogued records or to undertake an unlimited research project. I am asking for confirmation of the recorded information held by TNA concerning the existence, provenance, transfer, retention, destruction or disposal of potentially relevant records, and for the searches undertaken to locate that information.
That distinction is particularly important because a catalogue search returning no result is not equivalent to a finding that no relevant historical, governmental or archival records existed.
I would therefore be grateful if this could be reconsidered as a response to the scope of the original FOI enquiry rather than treated solely as a request for assistance with a Discovery keyword search.
I am continuing parallel enquiries with the National Library of Wales, Glamorgan Archives, Cadw, RCAHMW, HM Land Registry and other relevant bodies. The purpose of these enquiries is to establish the documentary chain independently and to identify where records were created, transferred, retained or potentially destroyed.
An acknowledgment email was sent on 17/08/2026, informing you we are handling your request under the FOI Act and that the request has been given a reference number: CAS-347296-M0V4Y1.
Today (20/08/2026) we have received the following:
I wrote to you on 12 August 2026 with a follow-up refining my earlier enquiry concerning National Farm Survey / MAFF records relating to Great House Farm (Ty Mawr), Llandough, Vale of Glamorgan (Williams / Buckler family interest).
I have not yet received a substantive reply to that follow-up and would be grateful for an update on progress and the expected timescale for a full response.
In addition, please expand the scope of the search to include any records held relating to the Glamorgan War Agricultural Executive Committee (“War Ag” / CWAEC) and Great House Farm / the relevant land at Llandough, covering approximately 1936–1950 (with particular focus on 1939–1945). This should include, where held:
Any orders, notices or decisions taking possession of, directing cultivation of, or otherwise requisitioning land forming part of Great House Farm (or the specific parcel now associated with Llandough Motor Sales / Llandough Trading Estate).
Any compensation claims, assessments, payments or settlements under the Compensation (Defence) Act 1939 or related wartime legislation, including the identity of the recipient(s).
Relevant minutes, correspondence or case files of the Glamorgan CWAEC concerning the farm or land in question.
Any related material in the MAF series that links the National Farm Survey entries with wartime agricultural possession or compensation.
I hold original documents recording compensation payments in connection with this land and am seeking to identify the wartime status of the holding and the party recognised as entitled to compensation.
Please link this expanded request to the existing case reference CAS-344046-K1S1R2 so that the searches can be coordinated.
Please can you clarify if the above (received on 20/08/2026) should be treated as clarification on the scope of your FOI request referenced CAS-347296 or a separate research enquiry about the collection.
Please provide as much information possible as this will assist us in providing a more guided response and possibly assist you in getting the information you require.
Please send your clarification by reply this email, or by contacting:
FOI Centre
The National Archives
[address removed]
We have now placed your request on hold until we receive clarification from you. Please quote the reference number CAS-347296-M0V4Y1 in all correspondence.
If you are dissatisfied with the handling of your request or the decision which has been reached, you have the right to ask for an internal review. Internal review requests must be submitted within two months of the date of this response and should be addressed to:
Quality Manager
The National Archives
[address removed]
Please mark your complaint clearly. You have the right to ask the Information Commissioner to investigate any aspect of your complaint. However, please note that the Information Commissioner is likely to expect internal complaints procedures to have been exhausted before beginning his investigation.
Yours sincerely,
FOI Assessor
Freedom of Information Centre
The National Archives
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M28 · 02 Sep 2026 13:50 UTC · FOI Requests · RE: Freedom of Information request – Great House Farm, Llandough, Cardiff (BP vs Buckler 1987) CRM:007302446
Dear Ret’d Sergeant Sion Buckler,
Thank you for providing clarification.
We have taken your request off hold and we will respond to you by 23/09/2026.
Yours sincerely,
FOI Assessor
Freedom of Information Centre
The National Archives
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M29 · 23 Sep 2026 16:12 UTC · FOI Requests · Freedom of Information Request: Reference CAS-347296-M0V4Y1 CRM:007302479
Dear Ret’d Sergeant Sion Buckler,
Thank you for your enquiry in which you asked for the information concerning the existence, provenance, transfer, retention, destruction or disposal of records relating to Ty Mawr / Great House Farm.
Your request has been handled under the Freedom of Information (FOI) Act 2000. The FOI Act gives you the right to know whether we hold the information you want and to have it communicated to you, subject to any exemptions which may apply.
I can confirm that The National Archives holds some information relevant to your request. We are pleased to be able to provide some of this information to you.
Our response
The initial response from our records enquiries team looked for the four terms (“Great House Farm”, “Ty Mawr”, “Llandough” or “Cedfin”) within the PRO and RW series and did not find any relevant information. We have now tried those terms and the further twelve terms that you have specified in a wider catalogue search. We have provided the results of our search below.
The crux of your query is local land ownership dispute in Glamorgan and the demolition of some buildings by a private company; generally speaking, these are not matters dealt with by central government and we would not expect to see anything within our collections. As such, there would have been no records to transfer. The exception is the court case relating to BP properties, which generated some papers. Links to the catalogue pages for these records can be seen below.
There are likely to be records of the farm in the 1940s as part of the National Farm Survey series but these cannot all currently be searched online by farm.
We are unable to conduct this research on the archival collections on your behalf without charging fees to conduct research on your behalf (Paid Search). A public authority is allowed to charge fees under section 9 of the Freedom of Information Act and within this section of the Act it states: “provision is made by or under any enactment as to the fee may be charged by the public authority for the disclosure of the information” (S9(5) FOIA).
The Public Records Act (1958) enables a statutory instrument to be made setting out the fees which may be made in connection with the supply of information from The National Archives. The prices we charge are set out by our Fees Regulations<https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2025/1243/made>.
If you are interested in paying for research to be conducted on your behalf, then details of our Paid Search service and other options for paying for research are available here: Paying for research – The National Archives<https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/paying-for-research/>
If you would prefer to conduct this research yourself then you may find the following research guide to be of assistance: National Farm Survey of England and Wales 1941-1943 – The National Archives<https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/national-farm-survey-england-wales-1941-1943/>
There are Agricultural Executive Committee minutes and papers for Glamorgan; but again, these cannot be searched online by name of farm and we are unable to conduct this research without charging a fee: Browse records of other archives | The National Archives<https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/browse/r/h/C42711>
We can provide the following advice regarding the search terms you have specified:
1. Western Ground Rents Ltd
Relevant information not found.
1. BP Pension Trust Ltd
Relevant information not found.
1. BP Properties Ltd
Judicial Papers A-C 1-63 | The National Archives<https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/74c935f9-563a-4c1b-8643-ed3eed68ad98> (House of Lords as court of appeal)
1. Mountjoy Ltd
Relevant information not found.
1. Proceedings in BP Properties Ltd v Buckler [1987] EWCA Civ 2
Judicial Papers A-C 1-63 | The National Archives<https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/74c935f9-563a-4c1b-8643-ed3eed68ad98> (House of Lords as court of appeal)
1. 1982–1983 registration and associated government or administrative records
Relevant information not found.
1. 1980–1988 public campaign and governmental correspondence
Relevant information not found.
1. 1988 eviction and demolition
Relevant information not found.
1. Cadw or central-government communications concerning the property
Relevant information not found.
1. European Commission of Human Rights Application 14464/88
Relevant information not found.
1. Records concerning transfer, destruction or disposal of potentially relevant material
Within the results of our search, it revealed a record within the parliamentary collection.
This is Judicial Papers A-C 1-63<https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/74c935f9-563a-4c1b-8643-ed3eed68ad98> . The parliamentary records and the provision of a service for them by The National Archives, was done in phases, with their collections loaded into Discovery in stages. The series that this record formed part of were released on our catalogue on Discovery on 20th May 2026.
This is an open record and available to the public here at The National Archives, Kew. To note, this record requires preparation for production and will take four working days to prepare
TNA holds transfer paperwork for YHL/PO/JO/10/11/2536 – Judicial Papers A-C 1-63<https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/74c935f9-563a-4c1b-8643-ed3eed68ad98>. The below table is a schedule of the documents that we have attached to this response.
Document Title
Document Description
TNA’s Notes
Item 01
Release Schedule: On Discovery
This schedule shows the release date of 20th May.
Relevant information to request provided. Some of the information is additionally redacted as ‘out of scope’ and not relevant to the request.
Item 02
Release Schedule: High Level Delivery Schedule
This schedule shows that it was scheduled for release in May
Relevant information to request provided. Some of the information is additionally redacted as ‘out of scope’ and not relevant to the request.
Item 03
Collect 27 Series 11 Spreadsheet: Manifest
This spreadsheet is the manifest TNA received from the Parliamentary Archives
Relevant information to request provided. Some of the information is additionally redacted as ‘out of scope’ and not relevant to the request.
1. HMC9/311 or related archival references
This is Manorial Documents register returns the county of Glamorgan organised by Manor alphabetically. The Manorial Documents Register<https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/manor-search> can now be searched online, by manor or parish and the results display in Discovery. This search summary says it lists records 1189-1925 held at National Library of Wales, Glamorgan Archives and West Glamorgan Archive Service: Search results: llandough | The National Archives<https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/c?_q=llandough&_sf=text_man&_naet=M&_st=mdrc>. This date range is too early, individual farm names are not listed in the titles, and the records are not held at TNA.
This is the limit of what our catalogue metadata and corporate records allow us to confirm.
This concludes our response to your request.
If you are dissatisfied with the handling of your request or the decision which has been reached, you have the right to ask for an internal review. Internal review requests must be submitted within two months of the date of this response and should be addressed to:
Quality Manager
Visitor Experience
The National Archives
[address removed]
Please mark your complaint clearly. You have the right to ask the Information Commissioner (ICO) to investigate any aspect of your complaint. However, please note that the ICO is likely to expect internal complaints procedures to have been exhausted before beginning his investigation.
Yours sincerely,
FOI Assessor
The Freedom of Information Centre
Government and Archives Leadership
The National Archives
Your request
Original email dated 13/08/2026:
My request was deliberately framed more broadly than a simple catalogue search for the words “Great House Farm”, “Ty Mawr”, “Llandough” or “Cedfin”. I specifically asked The National Archives to identify recorded information concerning the existence, transfer, retention, destruction, disposal or absence of records, including records that might not be catalogued under the property’s later or local names.
Your response confirms only that you searched the PRO and RW series using:
“Great House Farm” OR “Ty Mawr” OR Llandough OR Cedfin
combined with “Glamorgan”, and that this produced no catalogue results.
You also correctly state that Discovery searches catalogue titles and descriptions rather than the contents of records. That qualification is important, because it means the search described cannot establish that relevant records did not exist, were never transferred, or were destroyed.
In particular, your response does not appear to address the other categories expressly identified in my request, including searches or recorded information relating to:
* Western Ground Rents Ltd;
* BP Pension Trust Ltd;
* BP Properties Ltd;
* Mountjoy Ltd;
* the proceedings in BP Properties Ltd v Buckler [1987] EWCA Civ 2;
* the 1982–1983 registration and associated government or administrative records;
* the 1980–1988 public campaign and governmental correspondence;
* the 1988 eviction and demolition;
* Cadw or central-government communications concerning the property;
* European Commission of Human Rights Application 14464/88;
* records concerning transfer, destruction or disposal of potentially relevant material; and
* HMC9/311 or related archival references.
These alternative lines of enquiry are intentional. The purpose is to establish whether relevant information can be identified through the government bodies, corporate entities, court proceedings, administrative processes and archival transfers associated with the property, rather than relying solely upon the modern name by which the property is known.
I am conducting corresponding enquiries with other repositories and public bodies. This is specifically intended to triangulate the documentary history where records may have been catalogued under a different creator, department, legal proceeding, estate, corporate body or administrative function.
I therefore ask that you do not treat the absence of a Discovery keyword hit as an answer to the substantive questions raised.
Please clarify:
1. Whether the searches undertaken were limited to the PRO and RW catalogue series and the four property/location search terms identified in your email.
1. Whether The National Archives searched for the named corporate bodies, court proceedings and application references identified in my request, rather than only searching the property names.
1. Whether The National Archives holds any recorded transfer, accession, disposal, destruction or retention information indicating that records concerning the relevant property, estate, companies, litigation or government involvement were transferred elsewhere, destroyed, or otherwise disposed of.
1. If such information is not held, whether this is because no such records are held, because no relevant records were ever transferred to TNA, or because TNA’s catalogue/search systems contain no discoverable description of them.
1. Whether HMC9/311 or related series have been checked, or whether that reference falls outside the search undertaken.
1. Whether there are central-government, court, departmental or administrative records relating to the litigation and entities identified above which may contain references to the property without using “Great House Farm”, “Ty Mawr”, “Llandough” or “Cedfin” in the catalogue description.
For the avoidance of doubt, I am not asking The National Archives to infer the contents of uncatalogued records or to undertake an unlimited research project. I am asking for confirmation of the recorded information held by TNA concerning the existence, provenance, transfer, retention, destruction or disposal of potentially relevant records, and for the searches undertaken to locate that information.
That distinction is particularly important because a catalogue search returning no result is not equivalent to a finding that no relevant historical, governmental or archival records existed.
I would therefore be grateful if this could be reconsidered as a response to the scope of the original FOI enquiry rather than treated solely as a request for assistance with a Discovery keyword search.
I am continuing parallel enquiries with the National Library of Wales, Glamorgan Archives, Cadw, RCAHMW, HM Land Registry and other relevant bodies. The purpose of these enquiries is to establish the documentary chain independently and to identify where records were created, transferred, retained or potentially destroyed.
Follow-up email dated 20/08/2026
In addition, please expand the scope of the search to include any records held relating to the Glamorgan War Agricultural Executive Committee (“War Ag” / CWAEC) and Great House Farm / the relevant land at Llandough, covering approximately 1936–1950 (with particular focus on 1939–1945). This should include, where held:
* Any orders, notices or decisions taking possession of, directing cultivation of, or otherwise requisitioning land forming part of Great House Farm (or the specific parcel now associated with Llandough Motor Sales / Llandough Trading Estate).
* Any compensation claims, assessments, payments or settlements under the Compensation (Defence) Act 1939 or related wartime legislation, including the identity of the recipient(s).
* Relevant minutes, correspondence or case files of the Glamorgan CWAEC concerning the farm or land in question.
* Any related material in the MAF series that links the National Farm Survey entries with wartime agricultural possession or compensation.
I hold original documents recording compensation payments in connection with this land and am seeking to identify the wartime status of the holding and the party recognised as entitled to compensation.
Clarification email dated 02/09/2026
In summary, I am seeking recorded information held by The National Archives concerning:
* Existence, transfer, retention, destruction or disposal of records relating to Great House Farm / Ty Mawr (and earlier descriptions) and associated entities, litigation and administrative processes (as previously detailed).
* National Farm Survey / MAFF records for the holding.
* Any Glamorgan CWAEC / War Ag records, possession/requisition orders, cultivation directions, and compensation claims/payments under the Compensation (Defence) Act 1939 or related wartime legislation in respect of the land (or the parcel now associated with Llandough Motor Sales / Llandough Trading Estate), including identity of any compensation recipients.
I am not asking for an open-ended research exercise. I am asking for confirmation of what recorded information (including transfer, accession, disposal or destruction records) is held, the series searched, and the results of those searches.
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M30 · 25 Sep 2026 02:49 UTC · Sion Buckler · Re: Freedom of Information Request: Reference CAS-347296-M0V4Y1 CRM:007302479
FOI Team,
I write in response to your disclosure dated 23 September 2026 concerning
my Freedom of Information request regarding Great House Farm / Tŷ Mawr and
records relating to BP Properties Ltd v Buckler.
I appreciate the additional catalogue references and the release
information provided. However, your response also identifies a number of
matters concerning the scope, timing and methodology of the searches
undertaken which require clarification.
Please therefore treat this email as a *formal request for internal review*,
as well as a request for clarification of the matters set out below.
1. Physical accession/transfer of YHL/PO/JO/10/11/2536
Your response states that:
“The series that this record formed part of were released on our catalogue
on Discovery on 20th May 2026.”
You also state that TNA *holds transfer paperwork* for:
*YHL/PO/JO/10/11/2536 – Judicial Papers A-C 1-63*
Please therefore confirm, insofar as the information is recorded in TNA’s
transfer/accession records:
– the date on which the physical records comprising YHL/PO/JO/10/11/2536
were transferred into the custody of The National Archives;
– the accession/transfer reference associated with that transfer, if
recorded;
– whether the transfer paperwork identifies the transferring body or
institution;
– whether the physical records were already in TNA’s custody during my
earlier enquiries in August 2026, notwithstanding that their catalogue
description was only released on Discovery on 20 May 2026; and
– whether the *20 May 2026* date refers solely to publication/release of
catalogue metadata on Discovery, rather than the date on which the physical
records entered TNA custody.
I am particularly seeking to distinguish *physical custody/accession*
from *catalogue
publication*, as these are not necessarily the same event.
2. Scope and methodology of the initial search
Your response states:
“The initial response from our records enquiries team looked for the four
terms (‘Great House Farm’, ‘Ty Mawr’, ‘Llandough’ or ‘Cedfin’) within the
PRO and RW series and did not find any relevant information.”
My original request, however, expressly identified a number of alternative
search routes, including:
– Western Ground Rents Ltd;
– BP Pension Trust Ltd;
– BP Properties Ltd;
– Mountjoy Ltd;
– BP Properties Ltd v Buckler;
– the 1982–1983 registration;
– the 1980–1988 government/public campaign;
– the 1988 eviction and demolition;
– Cadw and central-government communications;
– ECHR Application 14464/88;
– transfer, destruction or disposal records; and
– HMC9/311 and related archival references.
Your present response confirms that a wider catalogue search was
subsequently undertaken and that searching *BP Properties Ltd* produced the
House of Lords judicial record.
Please therefore clarify:
– whether the *initial search* was in fact limited to the four
property/location terms and the PRO/RW series stated in your response;
– why the named corporate litigant *BP Properties Ltd*, expressly
identified in my request, was not included in that initial search;
– whether any search log, enquiry record, search worksheet or other
recorded audit trail exists showing the terms, series and dates searched at
each stage; and
– whether the later wider search was materially different from the
initial search in a way that explains why the judicial record was not
identified earlier.
I recognise that TNA cannot necessarily undertake an unlimited historical
research exercise. My question here is narrower: *what searches were
actually undertaken, when, and against which terms/series?*
3. Search undertaken after 20 May 2026
Your response states that the relevant parliamentary series had been
released onto Discovery on *20 May 2026*, yet the subsequent correspondence
records a negative result until the search parameters were expanded to
include the named legal/corporate party.
Please explain, insofar as this is recorded:
– whether any searches of Discovery or relevant TNA catalogue data
concerning this matter were conducted between *20 May 2026 and 13 August
2026*;
– if so, whether those searches included “BP Properties Ltd” or the case
title *BP Properties Ltd v Buckler*; and
– if no such search was undertaken before 13 August 2026, please confirm
that fact.
This is important because the chronology appears to be:
*20 May 2026 – catalogue release of the relevant series*
*earlier enquiries – negative result*
*13 August 2026 – explicit instruction to search the named corporate/legal
party*
*subsequent wider search – judicial record identified*
I am seeking to establish the documentary search history accurately, rather
than infer the reason for the earlier negative result.
4. Transfer, retention, destruction or disposal records
Your response states that TNA holds transfer paperwork for
YHL/PO/JO/10/11/2536 and has disclosed three documents concerning its
release/manifest arrangements.
Please confirm whether those records contain, or whether TNA otherwise
holds, information showing:
– the date of transfer or accession;
– the previous custody/location of the records;
– whether the records were transferred directly from the Parliamentary
Archives or another repository;
– whether any associated material was excluded, withheld, destroyed,
disposed of or retained elsewhere; and
– whether the transfer documentation identifies any earlier repository
or custodial history.
I am not asking TNA to reconstruct the contents of uncatalogued material. I
am asking what *recorded provenance and custody information* TNA holds
concerning the records now identified.
I would also take this opportunity to ask again, if you hold any more
information I’ve asked for, not disclosed to me, please disclose in your
next reply. This case went before ECHR (Buckler vs United Kingdom 1989) and
their window to reopen that ruling based on such matters as concealment, is
as I understand, 6 months. [personal passage omitted — not about the farm case]
5. Internal-review outcome
Please review the original response in light of the above and confirm
whether TNA considers that the searches undertaken adequately addressed the
scope of my original request.
Where TNA considers that information is not held, please distinguish where
possible between:
*(a)* information establishing that no such records were ever transferred
to TNA;
*(b)* information showing that records were transferred elsewhere;
*(c)* information showing that records were destroyed/disposed of; and
*(d)* the absence of a discoverable catalogue reference or search hit.
These are materially different conclusions for the purposes of my
documentary research.
I would be grateful for the internal-review response within 14 working days.
Regards,
Sion Buckler [personal passage omitted — not about the farm case]
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M31 · 28 Sep 2026 11:06 UTC · FOI Requests · Freedom of Information Request: Reference CAS-356384-B2F5L9 CRM:058802430
Dear Ret’d Sergeant Sion Buckler,
I acknowledge receipt of your request dated 25th of September 2026, for a review of The National Archives’ handling of request CAS-347296-M0V4Y1 under the Freedom of Information Act 2000.
Your request has been forwarded to a Freedom of Information Manager, who will review and respond in writing to your request within 20 working days from the date of receipt – that is to say, on or before 23/10/2026.
If you are still dissatisfied, having followed all the stages of our internal complaints system, you should contact:
The Information Commissioner
[address removed]
Yours sincerely,
FOI Centre Service Advisor
Freedom of Information Centre
Government and Archives Leadership
The National Archives
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M32 · 28 Sep 2026 21:41 UTC · Sion Buckler · Preservation notice — Great House Farm (Tŷ Mawr), Llandough — do not destroy, transfer or dispose
To each recipient, in your own capacity as holder or likely holder of records. Please do not treat this as a joint reply. Answer only for your own holdings.
Sirs/Madam,
This is a preservation notice. It is not a claim form and not service of proceedings. It does not replace any FOI, review or subject access request already with you.
Land: Great House Farm / Tŷ Mawr, Llandough-juxta-Penarth, adjoining St Dochdwy’s. Titles WA231076, WA240304 (closed), WA513690, WA735527, and any related title. Planning refs 89/01396/OUT and 92/00671/RES.
Please preserve, and do not destroy, transfer out of your custody without a written receipt, or dispose of, any file, plan, photograph, tape or electronic record in your possession, custody or control relating to:
1. The 1877 split, the 1916 and 1939 tenancies, and the 1938 Bute to Western Ground Rents conveyance.
2. The 1955 and 1962 possession orders, the 1974 proceedings, and BP Properties Ltd v Buckler [1987] EWCA Civ 2.
3. First registration: WA231076 application 30 November 1982; WA240304 application 23 February 1983; later amalgamation.
4. The 1988 possession (29 November) and demolition (begun 6 December), including listing, planning, police and any liaison papers.
5. Mary Doreen Williams (died 26 March 1983) and William Buckler, so far as your file concerns this land.
Also preserve, if you hold them, the following planning and land-charge classes. Absence from a 2026 file disclosure is not proof they never existed:
6. Any section 52 Town and Country Planning Act 1971 agreement, later section 106 instrument, deed, undertaking or other agreement regulating the development or use of this land, and any corresponding local-land-charge entry.
7. The historic planning-register entries required by the Town and Country Planning General Development Order 1988 for 89/01396/OUT and 92/00671/RES (applications, reserved matters, plans and drawings, and decision information).
8. The officer’s report annexes to 89/01396/OUT, including Appendix B (further GGAT comments after discussions with the Trust), and Appendices C–E.
9. The condition chain on 89/01396/OUT: conditions 16–18; the Council’s October 1990 confirmation of condition 17; GGAT’s July 1992 archaeological warning; the September 1992 reserved-matters approval; and the 1993–94 papers on whether condition 18 had been discharged.
10. Any preliminary environmental-assessment / screening determination for the outline application (site described as about 3.4 acres / 1.38 ha).
11. Any record of the statutory consultation route used because the land was, or was treated as, a site of archaeological interest / SMR entry under the 1988 Order.
12. The complete 92/00671/RES file, and any sale, option, conditional-contract or transfer paper on the planning files covering BP Properties to Ideal Homes Wales, including the recorded transfer of 3 December 1993.
13. The application-receipt record for 89/01396/OUT (form dated October 1989; reconstructed Council receipt 8 November 1989).
Please stop routine deletion, including archived mailboxes, for anything in that scope.
The public evidence index is / . The investigation distinguishes the farmhouse parcel from the eastern fields. The 1987 Court of Appeal decided possession, limitation and the October 1974 letters. It did not decide the documentary root of the farmhouse parcel. These records go to that question. This notice is not a finding against any of you.
Please acknowledge, name the officer responsible for the hold, and say what you hold in scope. If you hold nothing, say what you searched.
Nothing in this letter abandons any claim concerning title, registration, concealment, limitation, reopening or alteration of the register.
Yours faithfully,
Sion Buckler [personal passage omitted — not about the farm case]
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M33 · 30 Sep 2026 13:18 UTC · Sion Buckler · RE: Freedom of Information Request: Reference CAS-347296-M0V4Y1 — clarification
FOI Centre,
Reference CAS-347296-M0V4Y1
Thank you for your email of 20 August asking me to clarify scope. I
apologise for the delay in replying. Please take the request off hold on
the following basis.
1. The FOI request (CAS-347296) is limited to the six numbered questions in
my email of 13 August: whether the searches were limited to the PRO and RW
series and four place-name terms; whether the named companies, court
proceedings and application references were searched; whether TNA holds any
transfer, accession, retention, destruction or disposal information for
records concerning the property, companies or litigation; the reason for
any “not held” answer; whether HMC9/311 was checked; and whether there are
central-government, court or departmental records on the litigation or
entities that would not be found by a place-name search.
2. My email of 20 August about the National Farm Survey and the Glamorgan
War Agricultural Executive Committee (1936–1950) is not part of this FOI
request. Please treat it as a records enquiry under the existing case
CAS-344046-K1S1R2. My chase of that case on 20 August bounced from
[removed], so I would be grateful if you could pass it to
the Records Enquiries team.
I am not asking TNA to research the contents of uncatalogued records, only
to tell me what recorded information it holds about the searches, the
catalogue and the transfer or disposal of relevant records.
Regards,
Sion Buckler [personal passage omitted — not about the farm case]
M34 · 01 Oct 2026 11:56 UTC · FOI Requests · RE: Freedom of Information Request: Reference CAS-347296-M0V4Y1 — clarification
Dear Ret’d Sergeant Sion Buckler,
Thank you for your email, dated 30th September.
To clarify, you provided The National Archives with clarification to your FOI request on the 2nd September 2026 and we provided a final response on 23rd September 2026.
Also on 23rd September 2026, you requested an internal review into the handling of your FOI request. This case reference for this internal review is CAS-356384.
For ease of reference, please find attached the final response to your original request which contains details of your original request and the clarification you provided.
Please note, the request with case reference CAS-344046 relates to your original enquiry to The National Archives. We decided to handle this as an FOI request, with the new case reference CAS-347296.
Yours sincerely,
FOI Manager
Freedom of Information Centre
Government and Archives Leadership
The National Archives
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M35 · 07 Oct 2026 04:29 UTC · Sion Buckler · Internal review — CAS-347296-M0V4Y1 / CRM:007302479 — Great House Farm / Tÿ Mawr, Llandough
Quality Manager
The National Archives
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cc: [removed]
Sirs/Madam,
Internal review of CAS-347296-M0V4Y1 / CRM:007302479, disclosure dated 23 September 2026.
Requester: Sion Buckler.
I am not asking TNA to decide title. I am asking whether the disclosure answered the request.
The request asked whether records relating to Great House Farm / Tÿ Mawr and to BP Properties Ltd v Buckler exist in your systems, where they came from, and whether they were transferred, retained, destroyed or disposed of. A finding that TNA does not itself hold a court file is not a finding that no transfer, accession or destruction entry exists.
Please determine, on review:
1. Which catalogues, transfer lists and destruction registers were searched.
2. Whether any WELSH OFFICE, court-administration, HO or DEFE series was considered and excluded, and why.
3. Whether the destroyed European Commission file in Buckler v United Kingdom, Application 14464/88 (file destroyed in 2000; decision of 14 April 1989 remains on HUDOC), has any TNA counterpart or transfer note.
4. What, if anything, is held about the existence or disposal of those records, as distinct from the records themselves.
The public evidence index is / . The 1987 Court of Appeal decided possession, limitation and the October 1974 letters. It did not decide the documentary root of the farmhouse parcel. Transfer and destruction entries go to that separate question. They are evidential questions, not findings against TNA.
Please preserve anything in scope while the review is open. Nothing in this letter abandons any claim. This is not a claim form.
Regards,
Sion Buckler [personal passage omitted — not about the farm case]
M36 · 10 Oct 2026 19:14 UTC · Sion Buckler · FOI — location only — Valuation Office Survey 1910, OS Glamorgan XLVII.6, Llandough / Great House Farm
Freedom of Information Team,
This is a request under the Freedom of Information Act 2000. It is a location request only. I am not asking for a copy of the plan, a screen-room appointment, or production of the item until the location and physical-check status are confirmed.
Context. Glamorgan Archives, in reply 2026/4097b of 30 September 2026, identified Ordnance Survey sheet Glamorgan XLVII.6 as the sheet relevant to Great House Farm / Ty Mawr, Llandough-juxta-Penarth, and directed me to the Valuation Office Survey 1910-1915 maps held by The National Archives.
Please state, for the Valuation Office field book, plan, and index covering that sheet for the parish of Llandough (Llandough-juxta-Penarth, Glamorgan):
1. The series, piece, and item references (including any IR 58, IR 121, IR 124, IR 125, IR 126, IR 127, IR 128 or successor reference that applies).
2. The accession, box, shelf, or other store location used by your staff.
3. The Discovery catalogue identifier.
4. Whether a member of staff has physically checked that the item is in that location: yes, no, or not answered. If yes, who checked it and on what date, and which store.
5. Whether the item is open, closed, or retained by another department, and if closed the series and the FOI route for a closed record.
6. The systems searched, and whether a physical file or plan was retrieved rather than a catalogue-only search.
I am not asking you to interpret ownership or to comment on any legal proceedings. Please treat a “not held” answer as incomplete unless you name the systems searched and whether a physical item was retrieved.
Please quote this email as the request and give the statutory deadline.
Sion Buckler [personal passage omitted — not about the farm case]
M37 · 12 Oct 2026 15:50 UTC · FOI Requests · RE: FOI — location only — Valuation Office Survey 1910, OS Glamorgan XLVII.6, Llandough / Great House Farm
Dear Sion Buckler,
Thank you for your email.
Based on the information you have provided, we believe that this is the Valuation Office map covering the property you have referred to: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C1667398 (IR 131/4/96).
Unfortunately, there is no way of identifying the relevant IR field book on our catalogue without additional information. We would need the income tax parish and the assessment number, which we would expect to be found via the map linked above (IR 131/4/96). We have checked the Genealogist website which has digitised some of these records, but its coverage appears not to include Glamorgan.
We have made a guess that the income tax parish is Penarth, but we would still need the assessment number of the individual farm in order to identify the right field book: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r/1?_q=penarth&_cr=IR%2058&_dss=range&_ro=any&_srt=1)
Your options for accessing information from IR 131/4/96 is to either travel to Kew to review it and ascertain the field book number yourself, or to request a paid search by TNA staff, or hire an independent researcher.
Details on the options available for paid research can be found via the following pages:
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/paying-for-research/
A public authority is allowed to charge fees for access to information under section 9 of the FOI Act. The prices we charge are set out by the Fees Regulations under the Public Records Act (1958), and are based on recovering the costs of providing the services. Fees are typically charged for research and provision of information within open records in TNA’s collection.
Information on booking a visit to The National Archives and how to register for a reader’s ticket can be found here: https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/visit/researching-here/booking-a-visit-to-view-documents/
If you are able to identify the relevant records from our catalogue to which your enquiry below relates, you are welcome to request information regarding their production history or any other recorded metadata held in relation to them. Please submit a new request to [removed]
We hope this advice is of assistance in your research.
Yours sincerely,
FOI Manager
Freedom of Information Centre
The National Archives
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M38 · 14 Oct 2026 13:42 UTC · RESO Records Enquiries · Response to National Archives enquiry. Case number CAS-359317-Q8Q4R9 CRM:022001165
Dear Sion Buckler,
Thank you for contacting The National Archives of the United Kingdom.
We may hold records related to your enquiry. The map you mention is listed in our catalogue.
I have searched our catalogue<https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/> for records using Glamorgan XLVII as search terms. You can view the results of the search here and try some similar searches yourself.
Search results: (Glamorgan AND XLVII) AND 6 | The National Archives<https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_aq=Glamorgan%20XLVII&_or1=6&_d=IR&_dss=range&_ro=any&_hb=tna&_st=adv>
Penarth field books ….
Search results: penarth | The National Archives<https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_srt=1&_aq=penarth&_cr=ir58&_d=IR&_dss=range&_ro=any&_hb=tna&_st=adv>
Further advice about using Valuation Office records can be found here….
Land use, value and ownership: Valuation Office Survey 1910-1915 – The National Archives<https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/valuation-office-survey-land-value-ownership-1910-1915/>
Records are represented in our online catalogue by a title, a reference and a brief description. When you search our catalogue using keywords you are searching across these titles and descriptions, rather than the contents of the records themselves.
By clicking on any search result, you can see whether the record is available online or if you need to visit us to view the original. You can also request copies of records from their catalogue description page.
If the record is held by another archive, you will need to contact them directly to find out how you can access it.
You can also watch this video<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz4f–o3zUU> for more advice on using our online catalogue.
You are welcome to visit us<https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/about/visit-us/> to continue your research here in person, where access to our records is free of charge. Before you visit, please check our website for information regarding our opening hours<https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/about/visit-us/opening-times/> and ID requirements<https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/about/visit-us/researching-here/do-i-need-a-readers-ticket/>, and videos with tips on how to handle and photograph original documents<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlJ1OKfXWOg&list=PLddhSH7bW0pVBzNFsPIaUVs9mMFsA0utJ>.
If you are unable to visit, or would like someone to pursue this research on your behalf, please see the available paid search options<https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/paying-for-research/> on our website.
Yours sincerely,
Michael McGrady
Remote Enquiries Duty Officer
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Freedom of Information Team,
This is a request under the Freedom of Information Act 2000. It is a
location request only. I am not asking for a copy of the plan, a
screen-room appointment, or production of the item until the location
and physical-check status are confirmed.
Context. Glamorgan Archives, in reply 2026/4097b of 30 September 2026,
identified Ordnance Survey sheet Glamorgan XLVII.6 as the sheet
relevant to Great House Farm / Ty Mawr, Llandough-juxta-Penarth, and
directed me to the Valuation Office Survey 1910-1915 maps held by The
National Archives.
Please state, for the Valuation Office field book, plan, and index
covering that sheet for the parish of Llandough
(Llandough-juxta-Penarth, Glamorgan):
1. The series, piece, and item references (including any IR 58, IR
121, IR 124, IR 125, IR 126, IR 127, IR 128 or successor reference
that applies).
2. The accession, box, shelf, or other store location used by your staff.
3. The Discovery catalogue identifier.
4. Whether a member of staff has physically checked that the item is
in that location: yes, no, or not answered. If yes, who checked it and
on what date, and which store.
5. Whether the item is open, closed, or retained by another
department, and if closed the series and the FOI route for a closed
record.
6. The systems searched, and whether a physical file or plan was
retrieved rather than a catalogue-only search.
I am not asking you to interpret ownership or to comment on any legal
proceedings. Please treat a “not held” answer as incomplete unless you
name the systems searched and whether a physical item was retrieved.
Please quote this email as the request and give the statutory deadline.
Sion Buckler (Ret’d Sergeant)
Royal Signals Cyber/Electronic Warfare Professional and Life Member
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M39 · 15 Oct 2026 23:01 UTC · Sion Buckler · Re: CAS-359317-Q8Q4R9 and CAS-347296-M0V4Y1 — preservation flag: Valuation Office field books and National Farm Survey / CWAEC records for Great House Farm, Llandough
Freedom of Information Team,
Two cases are live: CAS-359317-Q8Q4R9 (Valuation Office field book, plan and index, Glamorgan XLVII.6, Llandough-juxta-Penarth) and CAS-347296-M0V4Y1 (National Farm Survey / MAFF and Glamorgan CWAEC records, c.1936-1950, including Compensation (Defence) Act 1939 material).
This is not a new request. It is a preservation flag. The 1988 demolition removed the building; the paper trail is what remains. I am concerned that routine disposal or weeding of IR 58 / IR 121-128 series material, MAFF National Farm Survey records, or CWAEC cultivation and compensation files could remove items before location and physical-check status are confirmed.
Please confirm: (1) whether any retention or disposal schedule has been or will be applied to these series in relation to this holding; (2) whether any item has been reported missing, transferred or destroyed; (3) the physical-check status of the Glamorgan XLVII.6 field book and plan as previously requested.
Public working evidence catalogue: https://greathousefarmwiki.wordpress.com
Title and chronology index: https://dartboard.bucklerfamily.estate and https://bpvsbuckler.bucklerfamily.estate
Long-term archive: https://wayback.bucklerfamily.estate
Sion Buckler [personal passage omitted — not about the farm case]
M40 · 15 Oct 2026 23:01 UTC · Sion Buckler · Re: Response to National Archives enquiry. Case number CAS-359317-Q8Q4R9 – incomplete location response under FOIA
Freedom of Information Team,
Thank you for the reply of 14 October 2026 under case CAS-359317-Q8Q4R9.
The reply provides Discovery catalogue search links for Glamorgan XLVII and Penarth field books. It does not answer the location request.
Please treat this as a follow-up under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 and the s.45 code. The original request was a location request only. I am still not asking for a copy, a screen-room appointment, or production until location and physical-check status are confirmed.
Please state, for the Valuation Office field book, plan and index covering Ordnance Survey sheet Glamorgan XLVII.6 for the parish of Llandough (Llandough-juxta-Penarth, Glamorgan):
1. The series, piece and item references (IR 58, IR 121, IR 124, IR 125, IR 126, IR 127, IR 128 or successor).
2. The accession, box, shelf or other store location used by staff.
3. The Discovery catalogue identifier.
4. Whether a member of staff has physically checked that the item is in that location: yes, no, or not answered. If yes, who, date, and which store.
5. Whether the item is open, closed or retained by another department, and if closed the series and FOI route.
6. The systems searched, and whether a physical file or plan was retrieved rather than a catalogue-only search.
A catalogue-only answer is incomplete unless the systems and physical-check status are stated. Please quote the statutory deadline for this follow-up.
Public working evidence catalogue: https://greathousefarmwiki.wordpress.com
Title and chronology index: https://dartboard.bucklerfamily.estate and https://bpvsbuckler.bucklerfamily.estate
Long-term archive: https://wayback.bucklerfamily.estate
Sion Buckler [personal passage omitted — not about the farm case]
M41 · 15 Oct 2026 23:53 UTC · Sion Buckler · FOI — location and content only — Glamorgan hearth tax rolls E 179/221/297 and E 179/221/294 — Llandough-juxta-Penarth
Freedom of Information Team,
This is a request under the Freedom of Information Act 2000. It is a location and content request only. It is separate from CAS-347296-M0V4Y1 and its review CAS-356384-B2F5L9.
PLEASE NOTE: DUPLICATE PLACE AND FARM NAMES IN GLAMORGAN
Glamorgan has two parishes called Llandough, and each had a farm called Great House.
IN SCOPE: Llandough-juxta-Penarth (Llandough near Penarth and Cardiff), hundred of [removed]. Great House Farm / Tŷ Mawr stood beside St Dochdwy’s church, approx. ST 168 733.
OUT OF SCOPE: Llandough-juxta-Cowbridge (Llandough near Cowbridge), and the Great Houses at nearby Llandow and Aberthin.
Please do not send or rely on records for the Cowbridge-area places. If an entry says only “Llandough” or “Great House” and the parish cannot be told, please say so rather than assume.
Records:
1. E 179/221/297 — Glamorgan hearth tax assessment, c.1663–1667 (possibly 1666), roll of 105 rotulets.
2. E 179/221/294 — Glamorgan hearth tax assessment, [1671], roll of 45 rotulets.
Please tell me:
(a) For each roll, which rotulet or membrane covers the parish of Llandough-juxta-Penarth ([removed] hundred), if this is recorded in any finding aid, schedule or index you hold.
(b) Whether any finding aid, index or transcript you hold lists the householders named for Llandough-juxta-Penarth in either roll, and if so, those names and their hearth counts.
(c) Whether either roll is digitised or available on microfilm, and the cost and route for ordering a copy of only that entry.
If you consider any of this reasonably accessible by other means under section 21, please say exactly where and how, so I can obtain it.
I am not asking to book a reading room visit.
Public working evidence catalogue: https://greathousefarmwiki.wordpress.com
Title and chronology index: https://dartboard.bucklerfamily.estate and https://bpvsbuckler.bucklerfamily.estate
Long-term archive: https://wayback.bucklerfamily.estate
Thank you,
Sion Buckler [personal passage omitted — not about the farm case]
3. Interpretation (Sion Buckler’s reading)
Not yet given by the family. When added, each point will cite the message it relies on (section 2) and note anything the emails do not bear out.