EV-0235 — OUT OF SCOPE: Hansard, 7 Dec 1962, Leasehold Bill: “Llandough Estate in Penarth” (cols 1671–72)

EV ID	EV-0235
Title	Hansard (Commons), Leasehold Bill debate: Llandough Estate and Lakeside Estate ground rents
Date of document	7 December 1962
Type	parliamentary debate
Evidence label	OFFICIAL REPORT (public online copy) — OUT OF SCOPE
Repository / reference	Historic Hansard, HC Deb 7 Dec 1962, Leasehold Bill, cols 1671–72 (also cols 1697–1704).
Status	HELD (public online copy). Text read 19 Oct 2026.
Provenance	Found by Tab’s research (fluoride and water leads), 19 Oct 2026; catalogued by Tab at Sion Buckler’s request (“Make sure wordpress wiki has everything we discussed”, 19 Oct 2026).
Related evidence	EV-0037 (1958 water report) · Kissed Frogs register

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Quotation: col 1671, Mr Box: “at the Llandough Estate in Penarth, in the constituency of the hon. Member for Cardiff, South-East (Mr. Callaghan), where between 350 and 400 new houses are now being built …”. Col 1672, Mr Abse: “within the Lakeside Estate and in Llandough these ground rents are being carved up because of land speculation …”.

Also: col 1697, Mr G. Thomas: “a lady in Penarth who will neither renew leases nor sell the freeholds”; Sir K. Joseph: “I believe that she has 100 or 200 houses” (“the Lady of Penarth”, col 1704). She is described as a ground landlord, not a farmer.

Why it is listed: per Branwen Buckler (voice testimony), the water cut-off was “discussed in Parliament”. This is the only 1946–92 Commons debate found that names Llandough land, and it is about leasehold house sales on the Llandough Estate, not water or the farm.

Proves: Llandough Estate ground rents and leasehold sales were raised in the Commons in 1962; Llandough was in James Callaghan’s Cardiff South-East seat.

Does not prove: Any Parliamentary discussion of the water cut-off, the farm or the Buckler family.